Nutrition, Vegetarianism, Veganism, and other diets

Against refined foods:

Nathan Pritikin Speech 1978 -- part one of six



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Pritikin

Eric Dubay seems to be in favor of raw veganism:
ifers.boards.net/post/9069/thread

Sure, it's good for health, to eat not or not very much meat. I knew this style some time ago, when there was a center of the Hare Krishna movement in my city. They gave meetings with indian music, philosophical lectures from old indian scriptures, and free dinner for everybody. What was delicious. But they are no vegans. They use no eggs, but milk products. Because of the cow. She is not holy for them, but has a symbolic meaning of motherhood, or something like that.

For me, this seems to be good compromise. Because the body needs some animal protein, too. For you don't get weak and tired.



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I think, vegan food, that needs vitamin supplement to keep your health, is the same synthetic as eating at McDonalds. And about soja-products:



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I agree, it should be balanced. I am not completely against vegan food. When it's very hot, like now, soja meat can be very much better for the stomach than real meat.

Yesterday for example, I was eating on the market a wrap with vegetables and some spiced soja meat called "Seitan", whatever this may be. It was really delicious, and not heavy at all. But in wintertime, when it gets cold, vegan is not enough for me, to keep my body strong. I would get circulatory disturbance.

I think, the choice of food is also a matter of the climate zone, where you live in.

The cure for veganism:

documentarystorm.com/fat-head/

Personally, I don't believe vegetarianism or veganism is necessarily more compassionate toward animals. They often compare and argue against the worst of factory farming but that doesn't prove eating meat in and of itself is unethical. Agriculture displaces animals and involves animal deaths to grow vegetables (therefore agriculture would be unethical as it is species-ist) 

I think the political aspect, those against species-ism, is illogical, and I believe it is based on an off-shoot of moral universalism (possibly, Christian universalism) but secular or new age. Which is partially why I am skeptical of universalism, whether humans are animals or made in the images of the Gods, humans are tribal and will naturally favor the particular over the universal (as a species tendency, not everyone). If veganism is universalized humanity's natural inclination toward (species) tribalism would somehow have to be changed. They wouldn't be allowed to live their natural inclinations that they have for themselves as a species.  All other animals would be allowed to be tribal according to their natural inclinations.  Humans would have all the obligations and no right to behave in preferences toward themselves.

I don't mind someone just being a vegetarian though. But I am someone who believes animal fats are healthy and we should be feeding healthy food to the animals we eat and possibly the selective use of anti-biotics or hormones.

Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes #5 w/Patricia Steere
Flat Earth and other hot potatoes

hour 1:44:00 and later
On the power of hydrogen peroxide, oil pulling, and of drinking your own urine.

Sometimes I think that he does not do enough research to back his statements, and he's more eager to talk than to do research. I get this feeling especially in the part he says that we do not need doctors at all. I'd challenge him to heal a broken leg with urine, oil pulling and hydrogen peroxide. Also, he says that we don't need money at all, but if you don't have money you're going to be around criminals, more likely than if you have it, and criminals are going to kill you or hurt you. So maybe having money is not such a bad idea, even for people who otherwise like nature (and are not interested in buying a Ferrari).

Another major problem of his alleged "research" is that he claims that breatharianism works and we don't need to eat or drink but he has stopped his experiment at day 60, claiming that it was due to "social pressure", because they felt uncomfortable that he would not eat. This does not seem serious research to me, especially for such an important claim (that man does not need to eat): you can't just stop half way and state that you have verified that man does not need to eat. I don't trust him. And I don't know if I should trust him with his other claims about urine and hydrogen peroxide, and all the others, too.

Another thing I was thinking is that hearing him talk about the benefits of drinking urine is more hilarious and more shocking than it is to hear people talk about flat earth, although I believe in both. Flat earth never shocked me, but hearing this guy talk about drinking urine is the most shocking and hilarious "conspiracy theory" I've ever heard.

The most hilarious part is when he says, at hour 1:57:05, "I couldn't wait to drink my next urine, which tasted like the most delicious coconut water".

This has to be the most interesting, funniest, and oddest flat earth video I've ever seen -- and I am not saying I necessarily disagree with anything he says. I don't think that even Eric Dubay would ever dare to say the things dmurphy25 says in this video, especially those about urine.

In this video, they are in favor of drinking urine:



Urine Therapy, The Practice of Drinking your own Urine
Pedro Carrillo