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THE GREAT AWAKENING – FLAT EARTH



This is a subject that I find very interesting lately, and not for the reasons you think, but because I think it shows signs of having enormous potential for waking people up, it is the present Flat Earth movement. Whether the earth is flat or round is irrelevant for this article, whether the people investigating it are as educated or more so than our renowned scientists, NASA etc is also irrelevant. I will not discuss any of the flat earth theories here, that is not the purpose of this article, the point is to observe how people react when presented with new information. I’ll leave a few introductory links at the bottom for anyone who is curious.

A number of Flat Earth You Tube videos approaching 500,000 views at time of writing.


FLAT EARTH – A GROWING MOVEMENT
Many of the clips on You-Tube are getting hundreds of thousands of hits, and heated debate in the comments sections. I’ve observed many conspiracies, some I was late to discover, but others I’ve watched unfold, none have spread as quickly and with as much interest as the Flat Earth theory. What I also find new to this conspiracy is that many believing the earth to be flat, or merely questioning it, are seeking out practical experiments that they can carry out themselves, to test the official measurements of the earth. They’re taking action, rather than merely believing some guy on the interwebs, or some guy in a classroom or on the Discovery Channel.

Back in April a friend mentioned the Flat Earth movement to me, it didn’t really interest me, sounded ridiculous. Then in May Jeff Berwick of Anarchast interviewed Eric Dubay on the subject. I’ve listened to many of Berwick’s podcasts and learned a lot about free markets, what anarchy actually means, and self ownership, so I gave it a listen, and here we are.

Anarchast : The Flat Earth Conspiracy



FLAT EARTH – DEBATE
My most fascinating observations around the Flat Earth theory:

People are asking questions: Supporting any group without investigation is pointless, to follow the anarchists because it seems popular or the flat earthers because its flavour of the month. At least the former will result in peaceful people, although peaceful sheep in some respect. We all do it, we are conditioned to move with the herd, so its nothing to feel bad or embarrassed about. These movements, like the conspiracy movement is forcing people to investigate for themselves. Even if they find warped evidence, or arrive at incorrect conclusions, I still think the point is people are asking questions, and I would imagine over time their skills of analysis and research would greatly improve. One learns nothing by simply being spoon fed information, be it what the best political system is or the shape of the earth, be it from the next conspiracy guru or the mainstream media. I yearn for a generation who instinctively delve into these subjects for themselves and seek out the truth, if they can find it.


The conspiracy side seem better researched than the round earthers.
Blind defence of the globe model: You may believe the earth is round, but 99.99% of people who read this will not be able to prove it’s round. They can refer to NASA or pictures in school books but do not personally have the skills to prove we live on a globe. This reminds me of the statist adamant that we need government because “who’ll build the roads??”, they have no awareness of economics or the damage political systems are doing within society, it’s all they know, “its’ better than the alternative!”. Why do we defend an idea or strangers we have no direct investment in? We are terrified of having our safe comfortable view of the world challenged. I’ve watched many debates on Twitter, those who don’t get angry are the ones who have done their research and have information to hand, those that do get angry and resort to insults are the ones who have sided with an idea they ‘feel’ suits them best, but have no concrete evidence to support it. They get angry because on some level they realise they have adopted a view with no foundation. Their view may still indeed be more workable than the other party, but without knowledge they cannot prove this. What’s my point here? Unlike other conspiracies this is the first time that I notice the conspiracy side, the flat earthers calmer and better researched by far, than the round earthers.
We need thinkers, we need readers and researchers.

“Its a distraction from the real important issues” – surely that is a matter for each individual to decide. I have written before my distaste for politics and mainstream “news”, yet many believe being “up to date” on this endless cycle of spin and lies is actually important, I did too at one time. I suppose what people are investigating I deem less important, and I find more crucial that people are actually investigating.


Most importantly: I also see these Flat Earthers as potentially an early indication of who are coming of age on this planet ehhhhh or plane. What will the next conspiracy or global issue be? Will this movement grow further? Will it be a force to be reckoned with? Will the next generation be awake enough to realise that they are responsible for their own lives, their money, their health and most crucially their education? The days of blaming the state and demanding it fix them may be coming to a close.
The Great Awakening - Flat Earth

A critical thinking population will analyse and assess every subject thrown at it, that may mean subjects you consider wacky and a waste of time, it may also mean subjects you may consider of the utmost importance. Put the subject of the flat earth to one side for a moment, we need thinkers, we need readers and researchers. We need people who are not afraid to be ridiculed, to stand out from the mob. Some of you are reading this thinking “its just ridiculous wasting time thinking the earth is flat”, each to his own, personally I think it utterly ridiculous believing democracy is in any way beneficial to society, yet tens of millions will line up and vote. The mob are easily steered by emotive theatrical politics, the mob watch shit television and rolling news, the mob elect the men and women who forcibly take your tax money and spend it on wars. If we have a growing movement of people asking questions there is a strong possibility they will steer those thinking minds towards how governments conduct themselves in the future, or better yet, as a more evolved awakened people see it for what it truly is, an unnecessary violent force that inhibits the evolution of thinking man, and do away with the system altogether.

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Flat Earth info:

Alleged ex NASA employee Matt Boylan claims to have been a designer who quit NASA when he learned the earth was flat. 30 minutes.

Eric Dubay 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball.Text.

Eric Dubay 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball. Documentary 2 hours.

Mark Sargent Flat Earth Clues Full Documentary 2 hours.

In 1937, Landmesser and Eckler tried to flee to Denmark but were apprehended. She was again pregnant, and he was charged and found guilty in July 1937 of "dishonoring the race" under Nazi racial laws. He argued that neither he nor Eckler knew that she was fully Jewish, and was acquitted on 27 May 1938 for lack of evidence, with the warning that a repeat offense would result in a multi-year prison sentence. The couple publicly continued their relationship, and on 15 July 1938 he was arrested again and sentenced to two and a half years in the concentration camp Börgermoor.

Eckler was detained by the Gestapo and held at the prison Fuhlsbüttel, where she gave birth to a second daughter, Irene.[5] From there she was sent to the Oranienburg concentration camp, the Lichtenburg concentration camp for women, and then the women's concentration camp at Ravensbrück. A few letters came from Irma Eckler until January 1942. It is believed that she was taken to the Bernburg Euthanasia Centre in February 1942, where she was among the 14,000 killed; in the course of post-war documentation, in 1949 she was pronounced legally dead, with a date of 28 April 1942.

Meanwhile, Landmesser was discharged from prison on 19 January 1941.[4] He worked as a foreman for the haulage company Püst. The company had a branch at the Heinkel-Werke (factory) in Warnemünde.[6] In February 1944 he was drafted into a penal battalion, the 999th Fort Infantry Battalion. He was declared missing in action, after being killed during fighting in Croatia on 17 October 1944.

Dunbar's number is a suggested cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships. These are relationships in which an individual knows who each person is and how each person relates to every other person..................................................................................................
................Proponents assert that numbers larger than this generally require more restrictive rules, laws, and enforced norms to maintain a stable, cohesive group. It has been proposed to lie between 100 and 250, with a commonly used value of 150......................

Dunbar theorized that "this limit is a direct function of relative neocortex size, and that this in turn limits group size ... the limit imposed by neocortical processing capacity is simply on the number of individuals with whom a stable inter-personal relationship can be maintained." On the periphery, the number also includes past colleagues, such as high school friends, with whom a person would want to reacquaint himself if they met again.

Dunbar searched the anthropological and ethnographical literature for census-like group size information for various hunter–gatherer societies, the closest existing approximations to how anthropology reconstructs the Pleistocene societies. Dunbar noted that the groups fell into three categories — small, medium and large, equivalent to bands, cultural lineage groups and tribes — with respective size ranges of 30–50, 100–200 and 500–2500 members each.

Dunbar's surveys of village and tribe sizes also appeared to approximate this predicted value, including 150 as the estimated size of a Neolithic farming village; 150 as the splitting point of Hutterite settlements; 200 as the upper bound on the number of academics in a discipline's sub-specialization; 150 as the basic unit size of professional armies in Roman antiquity and in modern times since the 16th century; and notions of appropriate company size.