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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 21:15:26 GMT 1
Interesting. If you compare what the Luxemburger Wort wrote on May 11th, 1940 and August 3rd, 1914, you notice a difference. They complained and opposed resistance more in 1914 than in 1940. Here's the two newspapers issues, respectively: www.eluxemburgensia.lu/webclient/DeliveryManager?application=DIRECTLINK&custom_att_2=simple_viewer&pid=1117588&search_terms=#issue:1117588www.eluxemburgensia.lu/webclient/DeliveryManager?application=DIRECTLINK&custom_att_2=simple_viewer&pid=1383899&search_terms=#issue:1383899Not only did they oppose resistance but, since I read it on the newspapers, newspapers felt free to report about it. I guess the reason is that Germany in 1940 was a ruthless dictatorship, whereas it wasn't the case in 1914, and maybe the royals from one country were even related to the royals from the other country. By the way, on the first page (on the right column) of the 1914 issue, it says: "In die Zivilverwaltung sich einzumischen habe er keinen Auftrag". Perfect example of the German sentence structure. Translating literally: "Nell'amministrazione civile si immischiare has he no order". I used both Italian and English to show how much German shares with both languages, using one language or the other depending on which one the original German text resembled the most (in its structure). Both languages help me very much, as German is a mixture of the two basically.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 16:11:52 GMT 1
No shit. Umpteenth false flag, once again, by the Germans (like they did again in World War II): www.eluxemburgensia.lu/BnlViewer/view/index.html?lang=fr#panel:pp|issue:1117588|article:DTL40|page:3This time, on August 2nd 1914, they invade Luxemburg and claim that the French are doing the same thing, and that it is just a precautionary measure: So, it's not just the Americans who are keen on false flags, not just the Nazis, but pretty much everyone uses them, when they want to attack first. What is striking about this false flag is that the Luxembourgish journalists are able to call it for what it is, despite the fact that their country is occupied by the same Germans who implemented the false flag!!! ----------- Another gem I found on the very same page, this time on Italy: It says that, while Italy will remain neutral (it was allied with Germany and Austria in the Triple Alliance, which had a defensive nature), it will have a benevolent attitude to its allies (Germany and Austria). Last famous words, as Italy joined the other team and declared war on Austria a year later. Typical Italian back-stabbing, as later happened in World War II. Once again, the ruling king was Vittorio Emanuele III. In World War II he will do even worse. ----- This is what the country looked like, when they were writing these articles: www.volksfreund.de/nachrichten/dossiers/erster-weltkrieg/analysen_berichte/Wissen-DPreisse-s%EBnn-do;art527003,3948395
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 20:13:13 GMT 1
Documentary on the Nazi occupation of Luxemburg in 1940: Heim ins Reich [Teil1] - Versuchte annexierung Luxemburgs unter Adolf Hitler Thomson Zollero
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 19:38:31 GMT 1
It's best to read the Luxemburger Wort with classical music playing in the background: Classical Chillout Music with Chopin, Vivaldi, Bach, Schubert, Debussy, Albeniz, Massenet ClassicalMusicClub
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 14:33:33 GMT 1
Classical Chillout Music with Bach, Chopin, Mozart, Paganini, Debussy, Piazolla, Albeniz ClassicalMusicClub
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 18:34:51 GMT 1
Classical Music Water Relaxation with Music from Mozart, Bach, Beethoven... Classical Water Chillout ClassicalMusicClub
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 20:10:03 GMT 1
I am on page 3 of the same Luxemburger Wort issue of August 3rd, 1914: www.eluxemburgensia.lu/BnlViewer/view/index.html?lang=en#panel:pp|issue:1117588|article:DTL67|block:DTL468Here the commander of the occupying German forces, on August 3rd, 1914, declares that the war has been started by France, which invaded Luxembourg, "as proven beyond any doubts". All false, of course, and everyone agrees on this today, and even on this same newspaper, the Luxembourgish journalists were saying it clearly (see previous post here). So basically Germany started two world wars in the same exact way, by saying it had been attacked. Back then, in 1914, I still haven't found out that there were any false flag attacks, such as for example the Gleiwitz incident in WWII, maybe because there was no need nor instruments to convince the population about anything. You just had to write it in the newspaper. There weren't good enough photographs nor films back in 1914. ------- From the same area of the newspaper issue, here's a good example of the very tiring structure of German sentences, where you have to look for the sense of the sentence at the end of it, which sometimes comes several lines lower: Back a year ago, this would have been overwhelming, due to the many words / meanings I'd have had to look up and make sense of, but now it is bearable, thanks to the progress I made. But it's still tiring.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 21:42:30 GMT 1
Hmm, OK, I was wrong. It took a little more than just invading Luxembourg to get the war started. The most important factor was that Germany invaded Belgium, because this got the UK in the war: WW1 Battles Timeline, World War 1 1914-1918 Randy King
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 18:07:53 GMT 1
Classical Chillout Music with Mozart, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Schubert, Dvorák, Mussorgsky, Prokofiev ClassicalMusicClub
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 13:52:40 GMT 1
Interessante questa pubblicità, sempre nello stesso numero. Ho messo in un riquadro rosso le cose che colpiscono di piu: Schiuma da barba che non richiede l'uso di sapone, né spazzola, né acqua, cioè come quelle normali che si usano oggi. Ma a quei tempi era speciale. Appartamenti in affitto, che hanno (tubature con) il gas e l'acqua. Da notare che per le pubblicità usano i caratteri Antiqua e non Fraktur, perché erano già allora considerati più leggibili (dai lettori) e certo chi pagava non voleva pagare per una pubblicità che era meno leggibile di un'altra. Tiratura del Luxemburger Wort oggi: 66.000 copie su 563.000 abitanti, cioè 12%: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxemburger_WortSarebbe come se il Corriere avesse una tiratura di sette milioni di copie, mentre invece ne ha solo 359.000, cioè lo 0,6%, cioè un ventesimo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 15:57:16 GMT 1
While reading, browsing, getting sidetracked, I came across this peculiar border with France, in a regular Luxembourg street: www.google.com/maps/@49.485871,5.9690261,3a,90y,228.04h,69.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szznxs9_wYZ5dV9EWOE47xQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 If you enter the little street on the right, you are in France. Pretty funny situation, which reminds me that Schengen is indeed a place in Luxembourg: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 0:05:38 GMT 1
Gia'. Molto interessante. Continuando a leggere, ho trovato forni in vendita, e forni per affumicare la carne, per conservarla "gratis". I primi frigoriferi anche per privati esistevano già, almeno in america, ma in queste pubblicità ancora non ce n'è traccia: Poi c'è anche una pubblicità in francese, in un giornale tutto in tedesco, per valigie, il giorno in cui i militari tedeschi invadevano il paese. Molto interessante. Come se sapessero che i francesi erano in partenza. Ma forse era solo il linguaggio usato per pubblicizzare un prodotto per chi viaggiava. Anche se in Lussemburgo erano quasi tutti di madrelingua tedesca, e la pubblicità delle valigie c'è solo in francese:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 0:55:44 GMT 1
Ecco in sintesi la differenza tra il lussemburgo e il belgio. Al Belgio la Germania ha chiesto il permesso, le è stato rifiutato, lo ha invaso lo stesso. Risultato, il Belgio si è opposto, e ci sono stati 50 mila militari belgi morti e 25 mila civili. Ora mi viene il dubbio che magari, sottobanco, la Germania e il Lussemburgo, non si fossero già messi d'accordo sul fatto compiuto, per salvare la faccia al governo lussemburghese. Cosa che comunque non ha salvato poi i lussemburghesi dall'arruolamento forzato nelle forze armate tedesche. Quindi tutte quelle frasi gentili riguardavano solo il primo giorno dell'invasione ("ripagare i danni", "ci scusiamo per il disturbo", "nessun atto ostile verso l'amico lussemburgo"). Ecco le frasi migliori da Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium_in_World_War_I#German_invasionen.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties#endnote_Lux
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 16:34:57 GMT 1
Nello stesso giorno in cui si racconta che l'intero paese è stato invaso dai tedeschi, c'è lo spazio per una sezione in cui si raccontano i furti del giorno a Lussemburgo città. Ebbene (vedi allegato), trovano lo spazio per raccontare che a un uomo, all'uscita dalla piscina, è scomparso l'orologio, ma non si è sicuri se sia stato un furto o se lo abbia perso. Non credo che in Italia, allo scoppio della prima mondiale, e subito dopo l'invasione del paese, avrebbero scritto un simile trafiletto.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 18:10:53 GMT 1
Questo è un quotidiano in italiano del Grigioni Italiano, che si chiama appunto "Il Grigione Italiano", a inizio guerra: newspaper.archives.rero.ch/olive/ODE/ABC_DE/ A pagina uno dice che Wille sarebbe un disastro, e a pagina due dice che l'hanno nominato. Trovo interessante che scrivano gli articoli sullo stesso giornale come se un articolo non sapesse dell'esistenza dell'altro. L'ho notato anche sul giornale lussemburghese, dove in un punto si dice che l'Italia è schierata in guerra con la Triplice Alleanza, e in un altro che invece è neutrale -- e tutto sullo stesso numero. Non riesco a spiegarmelo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 10:37:26 GMT 1
Sovranità del Lussemburgo finita al secondo giorno di occupazioneSto leggendo il numero del 4 agosto 1914 del Luxemburger Wort, a pagina 2: www.eluxemburgensia.lu/BnlViewer/view/index.html?lang=en#panel:pp|issue:1118917|page:1 Già dal secondo giorno dell'occupazione tedesca, il 3 agosto, come riferito il 4 agosto nel quotidiano Luxemburger Wort, si verificano eventi che mettono in discussione quel concetto ribadito dai comandanti tedeschi al loro arrivo ("non ci occuperemo di amministrazione civile", cioè "siamo solo di passaggio" e "per proteggere la ferrovia" e "in risposta all'invasione dei francesi", invasione mai avvenuta): 1) trincee scavate da tutte le parti in lussemburgo 2) spari nei cieli 3) requisizione e / o distruzione di tutte le stazioni radio-telegrafiche 4) distruzione delle rotaie al confine con la francia 5) addirittura arresto e processo davanti al tribunale militare di due francesi accusati di spionaggio 6) ancora peggio: arresto di vari cittadini lussemburghesi, incluse guardie forestali, spesso con accuse di spionaggio Tutto questo durante il secondo giorno dell'occupazione. Rimane ancora la libertà di stampa che permette al quotidiano di raccontare queste cose.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 18:42:16 GMT 1
Ho l'impressione, leggendo il quotidiano lussemburghese di 100 anni fa, che i giornali siano peggiorati, forse perché il lettore medio è peggiorato, e i giornali si adattano a questo, o forse perché il giornalista medio è peggiorato. O forse entrambi. Insomma, con la diffusione di massa dei quotidiani, questi si adattano in qualche modo alla tipologia del lettore medio, che peggiora suppongo. Infatti cosa ci si aspetterebbe dal report metereologico di 100 anni fa? Peggio di oggi, no? Invece molto meglio, sebbene non ci sia alcuna previsione, ma solo descrizione del tempo che ha fatto.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 20:36:31 GMT 1
In questo interessantissimo quotidiano del 4 agosto 1914, dove, mentre da un lato, come ho detto, i tedeschi gliene stanno facendo di tutti i colori ai lussemburghesi, arrivando persino ad arrestare le loro forze dell'ordine, i giornali sono ancora liberi e narrano tutto ciò. Quindi direi che questo è il massimo di storia che una persona può imparare da un quotidiano, perché succede molto e te lo raccontano.
Però non so per quanti giorni ancora durerà, perché ho visto che già il 6 agosto c'è un'ordinanza che punisce chi dà informazioni sulla posizione delle truppe tedesche all'interno del lussemburgo, quindi suppongo smetteranno di parlare delle truppe tedesche tra 2 giorni.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 21:42:48 GMT 1
La prima cosa appena è scoppiata la prima guerra mondiale? Amnistie per i disertori.Sto notando che per vari paesi: Austria, Italia e Belgio (vedi articolo allegato)... ...il primo pensiero è stato di fare delle amnistie per fare ritornare in patria i disertori della chiamata alle armi precedente e arruolarli nuovamente. E' veramente incredibile che abbiano pensato che un disertore in tempo di pace sarebbe tornato in patria per arruolarsi in tempo di guerra.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 16:50:24 GMT 1
What a stomachache to have to read all these lies by the Germans about who started the war. I am now reading the third newspaper issue since the start of the war on the Western front (with the invasion of Luxembourg) and, on this issue of August 5th, they're still asserting that the French started the war, by invading Germany in several places (see attachment). The lie is so big, compared with the history that has been taught since then, that one almost wonders if maybe this is not the truth, and that everything we've been taught since then isn't a lie. By the same rationale, one also may wonder if Eric Dubay isn't right in thinking that also the Holocaust is a lie. But then we stumble on a problem: T4, the Germans killed 100,000 of their disabled ones. The Germans also discriminated against Jews for 6 years before the start of world war II. Did the Jews also fabricate the T4 program, and this actually did not take place? Unlikely. So, if it did take place, then the Holocaust is not so far from the brutality of killing your own disabled people, probably it is even less cruel. So, sorry, Dubay, but the Holocaust most likely took place as well. Anyway, in the meanwhile, they were lying just as badly in the parliament: www.reichstagsprotokolle.de/150_Blatt_k13_bsb00003402_00017.htmlIn such a way, that one wonders if the Prime minister Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg (this lying asshole) had been deceived by anyone to believe all these lies... but I don't think so at all. Just like most of the American parliamentarians were complicit in the Iraq war in 2003, so must have been the German ones. They must all have been lying for their own advantage or weakness. But I still wonder where it all started from and who wanted World War I. Certainly not the Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria who was assassinated (assuming he really was killed, because with all the lies they are spreading today, maybe then it was even easier). Assuming the Archduke and his relatives didn't want the war, then did the freemasons organize the whole thing? Then as today there must have been an international network that was capable of blackmailing royals and prime ministers into accepting their will. I cannot know who is at the head of all this network and if it really exists, but if I had to bet, I would bet that it exists, and I would bet that, as John Todd has been saying, the Rothschilds are at the head of it. www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/articles/atlas_shrugged.htmStep out of line and speak in favor of peace, and in France, too, you got assassinated. The message was clear back then as it is today in the US where if you step out of line, you get into a car or plane crash: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k63848390/f2.imageAnd they will make it look like it was someone like Lee Harvey Oswald: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Jaur%C3%A8s#Assassinat_du_31_juillet_1914
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