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Post by heathen on Dec 7, 2015 7:13:14 GMT 1
Flat Earth: A Theory in Many Dimensions
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Mark doesn't need a dome for the Earth to be enclosed. But I don't think it would be flat.
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Post by heathen on Dec 7, 2015 7:30:01 GMT 1
So a Klein surface could be both a convex of a concave earth. It looks like this below.
A mirror paradox, Klein bottles and Rubik's cubes
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But if Earth were a mobius shape, obviously the whole shape is curved but we all might be flat on the strip. I don't see how that reflects our geography though.
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Post by cal on Dec 7, 2015 8:37:31 GMT 1
Thanks for posting these two videos heathen. I have stated previously that the earth is like a Mobius strip in all directions, only without the twist. Space/the earth curves back onto itself with the end result being a concave earth. This makes the surface geometry equal to the inside of a sphere. Ernst Barthel said that the earth is simply an extended hyperbola (in all directions) stretched out so far that it essentially loses its curvature and becomes flat. Therefore the earth is a maximal sphere--maximal in such a way that it is so large it essentially loses its curve and appears flat.
The video author kind of contradicts himself when he says that the klein bottle only has one side. This is not true. The paper he started with had two sides, and so does the end result (i.e. the bottle). Similarly, the earth has two sides--the inside and the outside. Only no-one knows what is on the outside. The deepest that has ever been drilled was 12 km when they hit something hard (the firmament?), so we don't know what is on the outside.
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Post by cal on Dec 7, 2015 18:53:50 GMT 1
This from Ernst Barthel, Die Erde als Totalebene. Hyperbolische Raumtheorie mit einer Voruntersuchung über die Kegelschnitte -- The Earth as a totally Flat Plane: Hyperbolic Theory of Space with a Preliminary Study of Conic Sections Chapter VII, p. 81.
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Post by heathen on Dec 7, 2015 20:06:55 GMT 1
Wow, well, this would take me a long time to grasp. If I could ever understand it. Intuitively though, the mobius and klein shape, might have something to it. Mainly because it comes across as elegant, and I believe this world is a creation, so intuitively, it would possibly have that sort of elegance.
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