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Post by admin on Jun 28, 2015 2:08:05 GMT 1
Latest video, quite wise: shillerism LASER TEST results and Re-Do7:55 "IFERS" stands for International Fanatics Exposing and Removing Shills Very wise and balanced video, considering he's been called a "thief" just a few minutes before making the video. He's very balanced and self-controlled. I was totally mad for much less, after being banned from IFERS, having "only" wasted one month writing 500 posts and promoting that forum everywhere. Jeranism is a person with above average wisdom who got into a quarrel with Eric Dubay, a person with below average wisdom, although he has above average intelligence and knowledge. The likes/dislikes at the bottom of the video show what percentage of flat earthers does IFERS represent, about 10%: Another 3 months of IFERS, and Eric Dubay will represent 5% of the Flat Earthers. He went from having 100% of popularity to having 10%, all thanks to his unacceptable behavior to people.
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Post by admin on Jun 28, 2015 13:22:19 GMT 1
Strange World Episode 10 - Flat Earth, Jeranism, and NASA
At minute 34, Mark Sargent and Jeranism discuss the mad flat earth world (especially since Eric Dubay rules it), and Jeranism's problems at IFERS. They even mention Serendipitous and provide the link to it, and even mention "acenci", in a neutral way. I emitted a sigh of relief. They are two balanced people, and I'd be sorry if they said something bad about me.
At minute 58 Jeranism explains what really happened with the bitcoin business and why he's been accused of stealing money.
They talk about this "shill" subject for the next thirty minutes.
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Post by heathen on Jul 2, 2015 19:22:12 GMT 1
Strange World Episode 10 - Flat Earth, Jeranism, and NASAAt minute 34, Mark Sargent and Jeranism discuss the mad flat earth world (especially since Eric Dubay rules it), and Jeranism's problems at IFERS. They even mention Serendipitous and provide the link to it, and even mention "acenci", in a neutral way. I emitted a sigh of relief. They are two balanced people, and I'd be sorry if they said something bad about me. At minute 58 Jeranism explains what really happened with the bitcoin business and why he's been accused of stealing money. They talk about this "shill" subject for the next thirty minutes. Haha, I heard that when Jeran mentioned you. It sounded like Mark Sargent knew about the Serendipitous board. Made me wonder if he reads about himself on the forums. I think I like Jeranism's videos the best right now.
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Post by Reffi on Jul 3, 2015 1:14:58 GMT 1
Astronauts to the moon naahahahaha
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Post by admin on Jul 3, 2015 5:49:06 GMT 1
Hello Reffi, nice to see you here.
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Post by admin on Jul 4, 2015 13:35:10 GMT 1
Sage Of Quay Interview with host Mike Williams talking Flat Earth w/ jeranismI think Eric changed political line again. He is so famous that he can afford to, because even those he insults, keep acting nice to him and rarely get offended, e.g. Mark Sargent and Jeranism. Sage of Quay Radio had invited Eric a few days ago: Sage of Quay Radio - Eric Dubay - The Flat Earth Conspiracy (June 2015)Yet Jeranism, after being publicly offended and defamed by Eric, gets the same interview, and doesn't even get asked any questions about Eric, and instead towards the end the host says that rarely he has seen people being attacked as much as He (Jeranism) and Eric, totally pretending to ignore the fact that he has been attacked precisely by Eric. This is like saying that they are at peace again, and maybe Eric even got him that interview. Yet his thread " Jeranism Is A Raging Shill" still hasn't caught up on it. But I noticed they did not remove his posts, despite him being labelled as a "shill". They removed everyone else's posts. Jeranism, unlike Eric, is a skilled flat earth politician, and avoids conflict even when conflict seems inevitable. Eric is so bad instead... partly because he focuses on content and attacks people based on content, and this is a quality, but partly also because he is paranoid and temperamental, misjudges circumstances, and miscalculates people's reactions. Then he goes back and tries to undo the damage. But he has fans who remember what he said, so this time it will be a little hard to make Jeranism go from "raging shill" to a regular valuable colleague again, and probably even an ally, which is what they probably both want right now. My prediction is that there will be no more attacks to Jeranism, and slowly the thread's title will change from "Jeranism Is A Raging Shill" to just "Jeranism", without any explanations, or maybe he will say that they talked and Jeranism "retracted" something. For sure he will never publicly apologize to anyone. That's another flaw he has, which forces him to be slightly dishonest. The less you are capable of apologizing, admitting, opening up and confessing, the more lies you have to make up, and he makes up a lot of lies, maybe even subconsciously -- the most famous one is that everyone he gets into an argument with is a "shills".
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Post by admin on Jul 10, 2015 21:57:15 GMT 1
Russian ROSCOSMOS and USA's NASA Keep Faking Space
Latest video by Jeranism. Running out of ideas, but not out of subscribers and viewers. He has a very high number of views and very quickly.
This problem of running out of ideas applies to all Flat Earth YouTubers, and to all YouTubers more or less.
And it even applies to all media.
They tend to produce content for the sake of keeping their viewers, rather than because they have something new to say. On the news, they are constantly repeating themselves, for example with their reports on the weather.
Everyone with a public that follows him, even a musician, tends to repeat himself, so maybe I do it, too, because I have a small public, too.
So, for your own progress and thinking, it is maybe better to not have any public at all. But then you will feel bored.
Anyway, this video he made, and many of my posts, especially at the previous forums, were all created to keep in touch with those one's public, rather than to express new content. This problem affects those who write, those in the news, and those making videos on YouTube.
After a while, you get addicted to your public, and you start repeating yourself.
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Post by admin on Jul 12, 2015 11:10:04 GMT 1
This is quite good. Latest video, which discusses the planets quite a bit: PRESS RESET DEBUNKED - GLOBE HOLDS NO WATER VS. FLAT EARTHjeranismBoth sides are making good arguments. The video Jeranism critiques is here: Flat Earth Conspiracy 100% Debunked (Without Citing NASA) - CASE CLOSED by PressResetRadio
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Post by admin on Jul 19, 2015 10:35:04 GMT 1
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Post by admin on Jul 19, 2015 20:13:53 GMT 1
Ball Earth Skeptic Roundtable | Ep #6 Jeranism (15-Jul-2015)John le Bon minute 3 Very sincere and interesting autobiography by Jeranism. He goes on for several minutes. It's good that they let him talk without ever interrupting him.
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Post by admin on Jul 27, 2015 1:18:38 GMT 1
The Nail In The Coffin - RIP GLOBE EARTH - Proof Positive!jeranism Jeranism fails to make any decent points. Flat Earth is false.BzTruetalk
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 19:11:08 GMT 1
The first five minutes are extremely entertaining and enjoyable, a perfect example of smooth-talking, intelligence, and irony: All About Fake Space - NASA and it's SIZE issues. Bolden cheats.jeranism
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Post by heathen on Aug 18, 2015 4:19:44 GMT 1
I put on Jeranism live and left it on. I came back to my table and they were talking about theology. I wish I could tell where the time stamp is since it's live I can't tell. Anyway, I heard just a few sentences and they talk against christian theology in a Dawkins-esque manner. I am not listening now at this point.
The other guy, not jeran, starts talking about, who's putting God through all these "tests", "to put conditions on Him", "oh, he had to sacrifice His Son, for, you know, so that we could live"..."I'm mean those notions are patently absurd". And they go on. I didn't want to deal with listening beyond this, at least for now. Haha, it made me laugh but annoys me so much. At one point they are talking about "consciousness" and saying a personal relationship with Jesus is not what it's about. Talk about us all being ONE.
So, say there's a God who is Love. And there's created beings and one in particular that is the pinnacle of the creation, the image of God in some way. Now, being a created being who isn't God doesn't mean God couldn't be infused with his creation, somewhat like pantheism, but not pantheism, maybe panentheism.
Now, since this God is love, and created his creation out of love, maybe he'd like to befriend his loved creation. And so, he enters into His creation by becoming man, the pinnacle of his creation. In participating in this fashion he literally identifies Himself with it, He experiences being created in a way. God is moving closer into his creation, in a way.
His creation, who live imperfect lives and fall short of God's standard of love, hurt each other, and both the hurt and the injurer experience further separation from the God of love. I even like the idea of God sacrificing himself to himself, sounds bad ass. On the cross God fully enters into the experience of being separated and feeling abandoned by God. And the resurrection is the victory over evil (absence of the good) and death. So this God, enters into the experience of absence of God, and in doing so, brings God into that very experience. And that could be enough, but there is also the aspect of victory.
And that, is just a quickly thrown together theology that makes the statement, God needed to sacrifice his son so that we may live, a little less absurd. I am not trying to debate anyone, I could have written this better, but it really really annoys me hearing people say things about theology like an atheist would talk about theology.
I don't even consider myself a Christian but it is my heritage and besides that, how can you not have some sort of religious feelings for this God who sacrifices himself so that others may live> Jeez, look around, isn't such a sacrifice considered noble by humans for each other? Maybe God is reaching us at our level? Maybe the world is based, in part, on sacrifice. Some say nature is red tooth and claw, but it is also sacrifice.
I consider both strength and sacrifice noble, myself. Looking down on sacrifice like it's just some nonsensical appeasement of a bloodthirsty God irritates me. The theology I am talking about is within the historical Christian tradition. Maybe I'm not spoken well like a theologian, or as precise in words, but it is valid. And well, whether people say it this way or not, I think people experience it a lot closer to this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 5:45:03 GMT 1
Here's the episode you're referring to: JERANISM LIVE Ep4 - Bob, TJ & Jeran discuss Stonehenge, FE and More jeranism
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Post by heathen on Aug 19, 2015 2:15:19 GMT 1
Some commenters didn't like their religious discussion either. I see two comment that they spent an hour or so making stupid arguments. I mean, just the little I heard made me think they weren't even worth my time to keep listening. It reminded me of idiocracy. Totally turned me off.
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Post by heathen on Aug 19, 2015 5:48:18 GMT 1
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Post by heathen on Aug 19, 2015 5:54:52 GMT 1
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Post by heathen on Aug 19, 2015 5:57:18 GMT 1
"A sacrifice isn’t considered a sacrifice when you aren’t giving up anything. What did Jesus Christ give up? He gave up his temporary life of misery for his seat at the right hand of God to rule the Earth and judge the living and dead." - See more at: jeranism.tumblr.com/post/108975896673/a-sacrifice-isnt-considered-a-sacrifice-when-you#sthash.sPmcJF5Q.dpufSeriously, I just find it ridiculous and laughable to say this kind of thing. Maybe Jeran should learn a tad more about theology. What's his theology again? I have no idea, I do know he quotes Mark Sargent, "treat others better than you treat yourself", which I think is nonsense but somewhat tolerable when Mark Sargent would say it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 8:11:58 GMT 1
Of all the big names, Jeranism is the one most concerned with the number of subscribers, and this implies that he needs to put out new videos / posts every week, and so he will often look for something to say, and he will say it even if he hasn't found anything really meaningful to say. Let's forgive him for some of his superficiality, because he intends this as a job.
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Post by heathen on Aug 29, 2015 7:13:47 GMT 1
I sent Jeran this link of the south pole timelapse video. This video I initially posted on this forum August 16th. The message was sent some time (I think day/s) after posting this video here. This video has 405 views today and was less than 200 when I sent it to him (possibly in the 170's). I sent it to his website contact page which says they will contact you within 24 hours. I asked him to talk about this video on his videos since he gets so many views and so other people could see it. I told him I liked his videos, etc. I never heard back from him. But I also never received my copy of my email sent back to me (I thought I clicked on that function). Here he is in the embedded video above talking about watching south pole timelapse videos yet not ready to say anything about them. But then I recall his video about Stonehenge and comments about the Great Pyramids on his channel. In the youtube link to the southpole timelapse video Jeranism commented on the video 1 week ago. Yet, he was ready to talk about Stonehenge and comments about the Pyramids?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 10:00:30 GMT 1
Hmm, well, I have long gotten used to expecting zero replies, thanks, or anything pleasant from flat earthers, although Jeranism is one of the nicest ones, as all the people hosted on this round table you posted.
Very interesting show, thanks for posting it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 14:37:24 GMT 1
I can't believe I would be able to understand 1) his English, 2) know the subject, and yet not understand at all what this guy is talking about, in any of the many videos he's been making against Jeranism, without providing any clear explanation on what the hell he's talking about except for the fact that he thinks that Jeranism is doing something wrong: JERANISM MUST RETRACT NUKE HOAXjeranism russiavids look at this wake up NUKE HOAX Maybe I understood something more. Nuke Hoax says that these children are part of a hoax. And maybe he's saying that Jeranism superficially reported it as true. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me. He's superficial? Yes, a bit. He's trying to get as many subscribers as possible. So what? Other than this, he's one of the nicest flat earthers out there. Ok, and right at the end of this last video, he says that Jeranism is a "shill" altogether because he just got started in Februrary and has too many views and subscribers for someone who started his channel in February. This could be a good point, although I think it's not the case, but just a matter of being a good smooth talking speaker, with extensive experience in marketing and sales, who's doing this as a full-time job. More from him always on Jeranism: All balloons so far are fake so how bout jerry NUKE HOAX
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Post by heathen on Sept 22, 2015 3:32:59 GMT 1
A good reason to keep my distance from flat earthers. The video Jeran is talking about says, "the police have been informed". I posted that video below (less than two minutes long). I am so glad I am not involved with this "community". I do post here, I guess, but not sure this place actually counts, haha.
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Post by heathen on Sept 22, 2015 3:35:33 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 6:00:16 GMT 1
The video in your last post was even removed, as is often the case in this community. Now you know why I always post the title and the author of the video: it's because so many of these videos get removed, and I want to keep track of what video I posted and by whom.
I can't believe there's even other people attacking each other, on top of all the attacking that Eric Dubay has gotten us used to. Yes, this place doesn't count. I was just thinking now that it is like a submarine, that goes underwater when threatened. Right now we are open to visitors again, but if I get insulted or similar, I will make it private again. If necessary, I will even change my name again, and become Jason or someone else.
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Post by heathen on Sept 22, 2015 18:48:34 GMT 1
Yeah, I'll try to remember to put the titles of the videos. It didn't even occur to me he'd take the video down. I can't even find his channel now and I think that channel has been deleted as well. It's too bad Jeran didn't put that video in his video about all this.
Joseph Klimera Fantasy Blackmail False Accusations and Actual Facts
This time stamp shows where I feel bad for Jeran the most. I guess you have to have thick skin dealing with the public. I think Rob Skiba almost quit from people's reaction to his ideas.
A comment on Jeran's video
I would have made an attachment of this as a screenshot but too much trouble to save the image on a hosting site.
I have seen other flat earthers say this sort of thing. This is why I was banned from IFERS and called a shill. I find it bizarre to think people should easily slip to one certainty into the other with something as big as this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 20:53:06 GMT 1
Yes, thanks for the feedback and adding titles to your videos (which you usually do). You can upload images here by going to the advanced reply screen: Well, "shill" by now, after Dubay's misuse of the term, just came to mean "not a Dubay worshiper".
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Post by heathen on Sept 22, 2015 22:36:33 GMT 1
Joseph Klimera Lies about jeranism blackmail Joseph Townsend & Claudi Dobos & Eva Dobos
This video contains the video that was accusing Jeran of blackmail.
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