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Post by lobellver on Jun 28, 2015 15:44:34 GMT 1
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Post by admin on Jun 28, 2015 15:47:54 GMT 1
Yes, I wrote to him before. I managed to get him to join Serendipitous, but I can't ask him again, after failing at another two forums since then. This is the last of his 3 posts at Serendipitous, my first post-IFERS failed forum (as a member): serendipitous.boards.net/post/3571/threadI am not sure how to operate this posting system, but here goes once again. First off I do not agree with Steven Christ being the second coming of the Lord or such, but that is none of my business -each to his own reality. However I find the concave earth a little weak from my own limited understanding of it. It is a little too complicated for my pea brain to absorb. Steve states, and I hope I got this right, that there are stars inside the earth in the form of a ball. Steve seems to say that the inner earth is lined with glass with a ball of stars in the center. The stars shine through the the glass before we see them. The glass then curves the light coming in making the ball of stars appear like a flat sheet. My question is this: Would not the concave image of the ball of stars become distorted when viewed by an inverted glass interior. IOW Shouldn't the stars then look stretched do to the curved glass in the heavens? Are you confused by my question? Well so am I! Anyone got an Asprin? Here's zero11's post on him: anti-globe.boards.net/post/1988/thread |
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Post by lobellver on Jun 28, 2015 15:52:22 GMT 1
Please, do ask him to join this forum.
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Post by admin on Jun 28, 2015 15:53:56 GMT 1
OK, I will. Within 5 minutes I will go on Facebook and tell him. I will now change the title of this thread to "Stargods".
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Post by lobellver on Jun 29, 2015 23:39:46 GMT 1
I recently discovered this guy's vids. I was actually looking for someone with this gnostic flat earth view, since the guy who introduced me into FE was also a gnostic of this kind, pretty much saying the same. I wonder if he knows about the nuclear myth. I also would recommend to this guy to take a look at Anatoly Fomenko's New Chronology*. Anyway, this guy is pretty sharp. The only bad side of his channel is that the image and sound aren't too good, although I'd focus in having a good microhopone, because afterall the important here is what he says, not the video. * Best channel based on Fomenko's research fsr.boards.net/thread/29/new-earth?page=1&scrollTo=224 |
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Post by admin on Jul 13, 2015 13:21:31 GMT 1
Max Egan, Mark Sargent, Matt Boylan and others are missing the point
Mentioned by Mark Sargent at minute 1:40:00 of this video:
Strange World Episode 12 - Flat Earth Friendship
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Post by admin on Jul 21, 2015 13:29:48 GMT 1
Stargods gives a good and balanced overview of how misused the term "shill" is the flat earth community: Shills, Spills, and disinfoby Stargods 11:49 I think Stargods here reveals what he thinks about who's at the top of the pyramid, the Jews. He keeps on talking about them for several minutes, without ever naming them. Of course I disagree. |
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Post by admin on Jul 21, 2015 21:36:07 GMT 1
More reasoning on the flat earth community:
Flat Earth and Hidden Agendas
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"Columbus was a PSYOP"
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"They must have discovered the Dome in 1958"
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"They're going to throw NASA under the bus"
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We're enclosed, there's a dome, and the demons are trapped here with us -- says Stargods.
I've been listening and he's making some pretty interesting statements all alone the video, but in the previous video he recommended modesty to all of us, and to refrain from calling other "shills", because, he said, we basically know nothing. So I find it contradictory that he's been making such strong statements in this video, as those I've noted down. Making such strong statements, which cannot be proven, and saying them as if they were a matter of fact.
For example, the statement ""Columbus was a PSYOP". I'd rate it as 25% probable. I'd assign similar values of probability to his other statements, so I don't see how he can make these statements with such confidence, when he said we basically do not know anything in his previous video.
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"They've been programming us to accept the flat earth".
He explains this, convincingly, for several minutes.
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Post by admin on Jul 22, 2015 13:33:04 GMT 1
At 2:21:40, they start commenting on one of his videos: Reds Clusterfuck! (Starts at 5 est)Reds Rhetoric At 2:27:40, they start playing his video. This is the first anti-flat earth round table that I have ever come across. Unfortunately these people are even more rude and aggressive than flat earthers, who on average are very unpleasant. So, maybe I need to hang out with some classical musicians or stamp collectors. |
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Post by admin on Jul 22, 2015 21:45:24 GMT 1
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Post by admin on Jul 26, 2015 20:48:37 GMT 1
Round Earth Debunked within minutesStargods Very enjoyable and effective talk against the concept of gravity and how little sense it makes to say that gravity manages to hold the water attached to the earth despite the fact that it is spinning at 1,000 miles an hour. He says the truth is that objects rise and fall according to their density.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 11:30:14 GMT 1
Flat Earth Flat sun and Holographic MoonStargods
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 11:34:47 GMT 1
Overcome the Flat Earth DomeStargods minute 7 He says the early Christians were all killed off and Christianity was hijacked. minute 9 About God and the reptilians. Probably this video is the most important video on his spirituality.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 22:36:17 GMT 1
Flat Earth ALERT!
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Very wise and entertaining at once.
minute 16
He starts talking about the Jews for the first time, and tells us that he has a problem with their limitations on freedom of speech for the sake of stopping antisemitism.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 15:36:08 GMT 1
Pretty courageous video by Stargods on religion:
Jehovah is a liar and Warden of our Prison Dome
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 12:42:01 GMT 1
Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes #8 w/Patricia Steere and Stargods Richard Vizzutti Flat Earth and other hot potatoesOh, look, he's a fellow Italian, with ancestors most likely from Friuli Venezia Giulia:  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 16:38:48 GMT 1
Flatheads vs Controlers Stargods Ouch... Stargods must have criticized someone in this video, because he's been taking a beating in subscribers (usually all flat earthers gain a few subscribers per day, and instead, he has a negative balance within a range of 3 days):  minute 4 She congratulates Patricia Steere minute 7 "Flat earth is getting filled with whiners" -- he's talking about me and Eric Dubay, and Fake Spaceman in Space minute 9 rant against Eric Dubay: that's why he Stargods lost a few subscribers -- all Eric Dubay's fans minute 13-14 Most hilarious bit by Stargods, when he talks about people being kicked out of IFERS. minute 18 Pretty blunt points about god, religion, this earth and this omnipresent death and violence. I agree, although of course it is very depressing to be told the truth. |
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Post by heathen on Nov 19, 2015 4:19:50 GMT 1
I listened to the 18 minute part. He is using gnostic terminology. He sounds acosmic, or at least it sounds like he is saying this world was created by a lesser being, Jehovah, who trapped us in the material world. Or, the dome in this case.
I personally find such a take on the world as weak and creates weakness. I see the world as based on strength and sacrifice. Even to the gnostic, the God Jesus, didn't suffer on the cross. I see potential growth in suffering and I see struggle as something that could be used to build more power and character.
The whole FE milieu creeps me out. Mark sounds a bit gnostic to me too but I can't know for sure. Mark and Patricia want to get out of this place...
I imagine it could possibly drive someone a bit nutty to keep thinking they are trapped by a lesser God where any and all suffering proves how awful God is. It isn't life affirming in the here and now of where we are. And also, in the very things he dislikes about the world are also the very things where profound love, sacrifice, and creative problem solving may he shown.
I am more of an animist.
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Post by heathen on Nov 19, 2015 6:04:24 GMT 1
 And there it is. The Demiurge, the lesser God, made a copy of heaven, which is our world. A worldview alienated people would feel at home in...haha |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 6:55:48 GMT 1
Hmm, I hadn't realized that you're as much knowledgeable about these subjects as those two other "scholars" I mentioned (cal and dionysios) in my recent post here... fsr.boards.net/post/3283/thread...and you might be interested in checking out that flat earth philosopher / scholar on religion, too. His name is Southern Israelite, and he seems very advanced in these subjects that you people discuss, on different religions, philosophies, world views. Actually that post is 100% like the one you wrote, as it cites Southern Israelite discussing Jeranism's religious point of view, just as here you have discussed that of Stargods. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 18:39:56 GMT 1
Stargods will be phasing out soon
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Yet another big flat earth YouTuber who thinks of quitting the flat earth community, most likely due to how hostile this community is to everyone. Whoever you are, you will be repeatedly attacked. Simply because, for polite people, it is not normal to have to meet such rude people as most flat earthers are.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 21:40:19 GMT 1
STARGODS & The Flat EARTH?
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Post by heathen on Jan 19, 2016 5:36:37 GMT 1
Here is how you can end the NWO
Stargodstimestamp~ 23:50 He says that from the age of 12 he was bothered by demonic beings entering into his dreamscape. He says he dealt with this for so long, most of his life (speaking about his life at 12? I assume). He said he got rid of them by praying before bed that whoever it is he is coming for it and will kill it (in his dream, I presume). After awhile it became less and less as he fought it off getting more and more angry. Then one day it was over. Later in the video he talks about using intention against the NWO. He also talked about Tulpas and creating these magical thought form beings with intentions. By the way, at the begining of the video he says it's over, the darkness has won, but we can win it. I don't know, it seems his ideas are all over the place (from pov). On the one hand, thoughts and intentions have an effect on the physical world, but on the other hand, he has also told us ideas about this world being a fake imitation of the pleroma created by god/the demiurge . Flatheads vs Controlers Stargods Time Stamped at 18:04 So, what the hell? If our thoughts and intentions have this much power then wouldn't these kinds of thoughts about the material world, the domed world, being a control system itself, also have an effect on the world too? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 15:49:03 GMT 1
When he talks about religion (and demons, etc.), like for most others, I don't find enough evidence in his videos to appreciate them. Too much speculation. The type of videos on this subject that I prefer are those I posted here: fsr.boards.net/post/192/thread |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 15:07:18 GMT 1
I had missed this one. This is an excellent analysis of Mark Sargent, Orphan Red and Patricia Steere. I think heathen and I almost completely agree with his analysis: The Mark Sargent Controversy Stargods minute 11:35 Top comedic skills displayed by Stargods |
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Post by heathen on Jan 23, 2016 6:39:14 GMT 1
I am Done with Flat Earth and other Hot Fluff
StargodsAlthough a bit repetitious, this was a pretty good rant against Patricia, Mark and Orphan Red but at 20:06 he says he still believes in the dome and believes it is quite possible the earth is flat. He seems to say we are being led to a Masonic flat earth. But, the things he has said about the dome seem similar to what Mark has said about the dome. So, he criticizes Mark for being fluff but what I have seen are the similarities between the dome. We have Patricia, Mark and Jesse spots promoting the dome and stargods as well. And stargods rants against them and his rants may appeal to people like us. I have been troubled by what both what Mark and stargods has said about our "domed" world. Stargods says they can handle us knowing the truth but it's the spin they put on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 12:34:27 GMT 1
Yes, unless you're suggesting that Stargods may be an agent, too, then I agree with what you wrote. By the way, he is also a member of this forum, although he never wrote anything.
Also, I am still puzzled that Mark has never answered about the masonic sign he did with Orphan Red. After all these clues, the most likely agent is indeed Mark Sargent.
I also agree that Stargods makes very long videos, and I can't keep up with them all.
And finally we probably also agree that we can't take from Stargods what we took from TigerDan, which is that he now changes his mind and says that he's not even sure anymore that the earth is flat and that it is not a PSYOP.
If he does go any further into this theory that maybe it is a PSYOP, then I will conclude that, like TigerDan, he was superficial in uploading his "the earth is flat" videos on YouTube.
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Post by heathen on Jan 23, 2016 17:39:21 GMT 1
I analyze what the FE leaders say, especially in regards to the dome. I find the the focus on the dome to be odd. Especially when I don't see any real experiments being done to prove it (except for rainbows).
I don't care so much for the Masonic hand signs as I think it is of lesser importance than the ideas put forth about the world we live in. I think it is possible that if the hand signs were done on purpose, I think they were likely done for us, the audience.
Anyway, in the video I last commented on, he says he welcomes Tim's tough questions/posts and would rather that than have people kissing ass like they do for the FE hierarchy. I disagree with stargods views on the dome and the demiurge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 18:01:24 GMT 1
Yes, what you say makes sense to me. Maybe one day he will come and interact with you on these subjects. Maybe when he stops making videos, as he has threatened several times already.
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Post by heathen on Feb 7, 2016 6:40:15 GMT 1
Revolution or Revelation
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Becoming more acceptable.
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