TheMorgile

This is his latest video, over 1,000 views in less than 24 hours:



Flat Earth is NOT a Psy Op ( ! )

It is very intense in the content it offers, and it is being very successful, but I find it very annoying, too. I was wrong. He is not as pleasant as Mark Sargent, in his delivery.

Flat Earth movement has More Guile. TheMorgile exposed. PSYOP verified. REDO
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The Morgile On Artbell With A Nutty Professor - Global Fairytale
Global Fairytale

Excellent debate. It doesn't matter that flat earthers are being belittled. Great job by everyone.

TheMorgile has recovered from recording a flat earth audio book (flat earthers are so sick that he experienced a wave of un-subscriptions after doing it). He is now firmly in ninth place of the top ten flat earth YouTubers.



Flat Earth in 15 Minutes or Less Natural observations and logical extraploations.
TheMorgile

In fact is is odd that Dubay did not become unpopular for actually writing a book on flat earth, given how flat earthers are.

LIFE HACK - For Bee or Wasp Stings ~ 5 minutes $1.00 ~
TheMorgile

Just uploaded 11 minutes ago. This is going to go viral:



Flat Earth ~ But I Digress (Section 1)
TheMorgile

Patricia Steere w/The Morgile. #26. Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes
Flat Earth and other hot potatoes

OK, this is going to be interesting, because TheMorgile is the brains of flat earthers in my opinion, together with waykiwayki (who unfortunately lately has been doing stupid comedy videos that are not funny) and Patricia Steere is the time-waster and most superficial flat earth YouTuber. Let's see if she uses some of her brains, given her guest.

At minute 20, I have to say that they have been interacting extremely well. She asks superficial questions, and he replies to them extremely deeply, with great orderly and concise information, bringing up all the most important minds. He has a very sharp mind.

I am a bit resentful that he never joined one of "acenci's shill forums", and yet he joined Eric Dubay's IFERS (only to be banned within a few posts, on 20150513).

With a guy as sharp as TheMorgile, we can all be more confident about the earth being flat (since he believes it is).

He is the flat earther who adds the least non-related concepts to flat earth. No religion, no historical revisionism, no veganism... just flat earth. Mark Sargent adds the "dome builders", Patricia Steere adds the bullshit. TheMorgile is pure thinking, pure reasoning, no bullshit.

Acenci et al,

Agreed. TheMorgile does seem to understand the scientific method at least. And he does seem very rational and logical in his approach. However, disproving the convex globe-earth model does not in itself constitute proving the flat-earth model. Additionally, something that the flat-earth community seems either incapable or unwilling to do is to actually DEFINE what their flat-earth model looks like. By default everyone assumes that it is a flat disk in two dimensional Euclidean space. This is incorrect, and it has been proven incorrect not just by myself. The earth is flat, yes. But it is not a disk.

Time will tell and we'll see whether most flat-earthers can think their way outside of the box that they find themselves in. Hopefully they will find the scientific method their friend rather than their foe.

Cal

Thank you for your observations. Allow me to add a couple of comments. You said:



How true! I just came across this quote by the late Steve Jobs. "People say you have to have a lot of passion for what you're doing, and it is totally true. And the reason is because it is so hard that if you don't any rational person would give up."

In my opinion, most flat-earthers just go for the low-hanging fruit. How many times have you heard about the line of sight of ships, and the eight inches drop per mile squared, and the flat line of the horizon already? Countless times. Move on already, and do something constructive with your life.

But how often do you hear flat-earthers talk about the Germans proving that light bends way back in the 1930s, Cyrus Teed and his rectilineator, or even the Tamarack Mines experiment?



Now there is a novel idea. That would be a much better idea for a book than Doo-bay's repetitive, unorganized excuse of a book to make money.



I have a Master's degree in Theology, and can read biblical Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. Plus I was a pastor for a number of years. Yet I have not once used a bible reference in support of geocentricity, the flat or concave earth. Faith has to do with belief. The word believe means to accept something as true without critical examination. Science comes from the Latin word 'to know.' If you know then you don't need to believe. Yes, the bible has a lot of truth in it--but by and large most people do not understand it, nor know of its provenance. So I generally do not discuss it and the flat earth together.

Also thanks for recommending those other flat-earthers. I'll have to check them out when I have time.

Cheers!

Unfortunately too many people in the world want that numinous feeling from religion. You taught me a new word today. "A numen 1. was in Roman times a local divinity or presiding spirit, 2. is an indwelling force or quality that animates or guides. Thus numinous is evoking awe or reverence, as the presence of something holy or divine. Irrational, mysterious, inscrutable." That is religion to a tee. I was brought up in Catholicism, and no wonder fell easy prey to Christianity.

But at the other end of the spectrum is a scientism which, as you say, refuses to look at anomalies to its system of beliefs.



I totally agree that physicalism/materialism and naturalism are also beliefs or belief systems (B.S. for an abbreviation), as much as religion(s) are B.S. About a half dozen years ago I started awakening more to the "anomalies" of Scientism's rigid belief system. I would say that scientism is exclusive materialism, and by definition it can't or won't accept anything outside of an experimental/observable reality. One aspect of the dictionary definition of scientism is "uncritical or unsuitable application of scientific concepts or terms."

One of the best books that helped me to understand the "anomalies" (read paranormal) of the materialistic world was Michael Talbot's book, The Holographic Universe. Since then I have progressed to studies of consciousness. Curiously the scientific world is only as of late admitting to a connection, i.e. in quantum mechanics.



This is the 64-million dollar question. Is God real. I seriously doubt that you can explain the order of the geo-verse without Him. Yet, how is he known in the heart? Not as the bible tells us about a literary creation named Jesus. Perhaps the gnostics, shamans, druids, tokers, etc. know more about God through their mystical experiences than most Christians unless they experience the meditation of deep prayer? The Dead Sea Scrolls' scholar, the late John M. Allegro, documents this in his book, The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross. I think any numinous experience is real and will help you understand God.

Another good book which explains this is David Mathisen's book, The Undying Stars. In that book he talks about the near death experiences that the Pharoah's would undergo, and the term for the realm of the beyond he gives is "the implicate order." I'm sure we have much to learn from the Ancients!

His usual video recorded from the toilet:



FLAT EARTH ~ California, Maps, Projectiles & Gyros
TheMorgile

Hmm, I don't like the echo and the speed, so from now on he will be my second favorite YouTubers, after wayki wayki.

Oh, yes, good point. I forgot to post it here. I had posted it on the "flat earth humor" thread, so let me post it here again, from:
fsr.boards.net/thread/68/flat-earth-humor?page=3&scrollTo=3392




Actually I changed my mind about this video on TheMorgile. If he needs money, he should be allowed to ask for it and to get it, without criticism.

One thing is to correctly criticize Jeranism, for raising money for a balloon he never launched, as pointed out by FakeSpaceman.

Another thing is to blame someone... for simply not having money.

By the same rationale, I will keep blaming every flat earther for being the rude people that they are, but I won't blame them for not changing things they can't change, such as sexual orientation, race, accent, IQ, and even culture, which to a large extent is inherited from our parents, background and upbringing.

I will thumb up / down future YouTube videos according to this methodology. We should be for meritocracy and not for... aristocracy.

In fact this reminds me that I blamed some Australians for their accents. That was a mistake, too.

TigerDan - Lying Slanderous Shill
TheMorgile2

I think he said he would do it for 20 million dollars, and I would, too. Well, one more reason to say that this flat earth show is the best by far. Are Steere and Sargent ever going to tell us such important information about themselves?

Hell no -- they don't even tell us why they are doing the masonic hand signs.

By the way, I downloaded all of Zetetic Astronomy, the audio book made by TheMorgile, and I've been listening to the first few videos (converted in mp3s), on my mp3 player. Great job by TheMorgile. I could even stomach his voice, which is in fact very clear.

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Holy cow, heathen, I am listening to it now, and you missed their "shill list" (they call them "distractions") at minute 5, a list which even includes Stars Are Souls, to my surprise.

minute 11
"...or somebody has helped you from the outside" (or something). She says people are either put there by the people or by the powers that be. Little problem there. She says this, and then she puts someone like Eric Dubay on her shill list, someone who, despite being a paranoid asshole, has been working at this for almost 10 years, and who just a year ago had only 3,000 subscribers, whose accounts, for his controversial ideas, were terminated on Facebook, and even by Proboards. I am saying that he's clearly not a shill. He may be an asshole, but clearly not a shill.