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Flat Earth - No, They Don't Track All Flights In The Southern Hemisphere, Proof!!! PropaganDestroyer
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Flat Earth Gatekeepers, Liars and Shills...oh my!! Part 1 rollingthunder42
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 14:48:12 GMT 1
He gets very practical about demonstrating that these famous southern hemisphere flights are fake:
The Flat Earth!!! Tai Chi Clan
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 26, 2016 4:50:42 GMT 1
Lot of posts in here are keep pointing other flights such as 30 hours. I want to point at "non-stop" flights. Between Sydney and Santiago non-flight occurs only 4 times a week. The key is 12 hours flight. I know 30 hours flight doesn't make any sense for globe. That would be cheering for Flat Earthers. But I want to focus on "12 hours" flight does exist. How can we debunk it? I'm so afraid it would disprove my belief regards the Flat Earth.
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 26, 2016 4:52:27 GMT 1
Lot of posts in here are keep pointing other flights such as 30 hours. I want to point at "non-stop" flights. Between Sydney and Santiago non-flight occurs only 4 times a week. The key is 12 hours flight. I know 30 hours flight doesn't make any sense for globe. That would be cheering for Flat Earthers. But I want to focus on "12 hours" flight does exist. How can we debunk it? I'm so afraid it would disprove my belief regards the Flat Earth. Addition, I have absolutely no explanation how 12 hours flight exist. It makes me sad. I can't figure out. Not a cent.
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 26, 2016 16:33:06 GMT 1
Thanks for joining us and welcome to the forum. Thanks so much. I'm sorry I should have introduced myself. I appreciated that you shared ships video. I still would like to focus on south hemisphere flights. I made this video quick and short, so you guys can watch it. I apologize that there won't be audio because I can't speak.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 17:23:42 GMT 1
Thanks for joining us and welcome to the forum. Thanks so much. I'm sorry I should have introduced myself. I appreciated that you shared ships video. I still would like to focus on south hemisphere flights. I made this video quick and short, so you guys can watch it. I apologize that there won't be audio because I can't speak. So, basically, what are our hypotheses, points and objections? 1) the flight never takes place 2) the flight takes place, but the plane flies faster and via a path that is different from what officially stated 3) the flight takes place according to the normal path, and the earth is flat, but the flat earth map is not what we generally think 4) the flight takes place according to the normal path, and the earth is a sphere I think we do not have any other hypotheses. What ways do we have to prove this? The fastest thing to do is to take that flight. Let me know some more thoughts you might have on this.
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 26, 2016 18:28:00 GMT 1
1) the flight never takes place 2) the flight takes place, but the plane flies faster and via a path that is different from what officially stated 3) the flight takes place according to the normal path, and the earth is flat, but the flat earth map is not what we generally think 4) the flight takes place according to the normal path, and the earth is a sphere Somehow, I'm feeling like I'm losing faith in Flat Earth because of south hemisphere. I would more like to agree with your suggestion of number 4. "the flight takes place according to the normal path, and the earth is a sphere" No offensive, I think 1-3 is most often used by Flat Earth community to defensive themselves. I'm highly convinced that Earth is flat, but I'm overwhelmed by those flights evidence. South Hemisphere flights debunked Flat Earth SO HARD. I'm still looking for an answer that able to reverse the debunk. I haven't found one solution. 12 hours between Sydney and Santiago only will work on Globe. It would be more than 30 hours non stop for Flat Earth model. One thing I have on my mind, what is there is special something like gravity or magnetic field under Flat Earth that draws or swallows south hemisphere like Black Hole. That makes people moving so fast. For example, people could walk 500 MPH in Sydney without realizing it because they can't feel nor see it. I'm still looking for a formal scientific word. So plane could move over 1200 MPH in South Hemisphere, but it appears to be 500 MPH in our comprehensive. Ignore most of video but look at 12:55 to 13:00. You will see in middle that lot of stars are staying pretty much, but stars around moving so fast like swallowing.. I know you might think I'm so crazy about this. But that would supports Flat Earth conspiracy among south hemisphere. Otherwise, flights would disprove Flat Earth. Look at 12:55 - 13:00
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:14:30 GMT 1
I do not have any problems with anyone's thinking, given that I believe in flat earth, which is outrageous to the majority of people. Regarding our hypotheses, I also forgot this one, which I mentioned on that thread at theflatearthsociety.org: www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62950.msg1665344#msg1665344I found evidence of delays. Also, whatever doubts I have regarding the flights, they are wiped out when I look at the Pythagorean theorem, at the supposed curvature, and at all the things that are being seen on the horizon.
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Post by cal on Feb 26, 2016 19:18:47 GMT 1
abcv2v, Welcome to the forum! I think you are on the right track. See my post Acenci we have a problemThe earth is concave and shares similarity i.e. distance wise with an oblate spheroid. Cal
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:36:26 GMT 1
abcv2v, Welcome to the forum! I think you are on the right track. See my post Acenci we have a problemThe earth is concave and shares similarity i.e. distance wise with an oblate spheroid. Cal Do you also have a solution for the 'bending of the waters'? I know some say, it electr-magn force, but I have not seen yet that it exists in the atmosphere and that it is 'strong' enough to hold all the water while little birds and flies can fly easily.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:57:23 GMT 1
One thing I have on my mind, what is there is special something like gravity or magnetic field under Flat Earth that draws or swallows south hemisphere like Black Hole. That makes people moving so fast. For example, people could walk 500 MPH in Sydney without realizing it because they can't feel nor see it. I'm still looking for a formal scientific word. So plane could move over 1200 MPH in South Hemisphere, but it appears to be 500 MPH in our comprehensive. Ignore most of video but look at 12:55 to 13:00. You will see in middle that lot of stars are staying pretty much, but stars around moving so fast like swallowing.. I know you might think I'm so crazy about this. But that would supports Flat Earth conspiracy among south hemisphere. Otherwise, flights would disprove Flat Earth. Look at 12:55 - 13:00 I think that we are living in an energy field. Matter is energy and with the help of thought we create images, just like on television. Your idea is interesting. There could be a different kind of energy in the south. Although there are some weird persons living there, I could not feel a difference when I paid them a visit down under.
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Post by cal on Feb 26, 2016 23:47:37 GMT 1
The 'bending of the waters' is the same as the rest of the Earth. We are living on the inside of a hollow concave sphere. The same force that holds us glued down to the Earth is the same force that holds the waters glued to the surface. It is the ether which emanates from the celestial sphere. Check out the Concave Earth Forum by the crazy Steven Christopher. Both Acenci and I were members of that forum. The "Lord" Steven Christ is nuts. He thinks he is the returned Christ. Other than that most of the stuff on his forum is true.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 0:06:07 GMT 1
I am open to the idea, but please give me some more.
Water doesn't have to be hold to the surface if there is a hole in the ground. It will move as well (waves, tides). For 'waterbending' a different force is needed. Where is it? Just, saying it is there, won't do.
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Post by cal on Feb 27, 2016 2:08:23 GMT 1
Not sure what you mean exactly by water bending. I'm assuming you mean the force which is commonly called gravity. Gravity doesn't actually exist. It is the ether. If this is the force you mean then I can discuss it further if you'd like...
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 27, 2016 5:24:12 GMT 1
I do not have any problems with anyone's thinking, given that I believe in flat earth, which is outrageous to the majority of people. Regarding our hypotheses, I also forgot this one, which I mentioned on that thread at theflatearthsociety.org: www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62950.msg1665344#msg1665344I found evidence of delays. Also, whatever doubts I have regarding the flights, they are wiped out when I look at the Pythagorean theorem, at the supposed curvature, and at all the things that are being seen on the horizon. Let me ask you one simple question. Do you think ALL EVERY non-stop flights in south hemisphere had delays, refuels, and alters routes? Can you tell me what is exact your hypotheses? I have no problem about horizon. But you seem still ignore evidence 12 hours flight or 9 hours flight in South Hemisphere. That would unfortunately disprove Flat Earth theory. Seriously, I'm considering to buy a ticket for Sydney to Santiago non-stop flight. If I get to Santiago from Sydney in 12 hours, I will say goodbye to Flat Earth theory. I'm thinking about doing it during my vacation this year or next year. I need to find truth myself with my own barely eyes. I recently looked the thread in FES that you created. I read lot of it, but it seems that lot of people included you were keep pointing at flaws flights such as 1 stop in Europe, delays, refuels, etc.... Why not you ignore those flaws? Focus on those flight that fly between Sydney and Santiago or different places SUCCESSFULLY. They would cause Flat Earth difficulties. Repeatedly, how can you explain 9-12 hours successfully non-stop flights in South Hemisphere?
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 27, 2016 5:29:38 GMT 1
abcv2v, Welcome to the forum! I think you are on the right track. See my post Acenci we have a problemThe earth is concave and shares similarity i.e. distance wise with an oblate spheroid. Cal Thanks so much for welcoming me. I'm not sure if you believe that earth is concave. Are you speaking of sarcastic or serious? I saw concave earth theory, but I hesitate to analyze it. We should able to see other places over 3000 miles if Earth is concave. There are several reasons why I hesitate to listen concave earth theory. Perhaps, I could it someday to see if it make sense, more not likely, no offensive... I agreed that flights in South Hemisphere would work in concave Earth. But concave Earth technically considered as spherical earth in reverse side.
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 27, 2016 5:37:53 GMT 1
The 'bending of the waters' is the same as the rest of the Earth. We are living on the inside of a hollow concave sphere. The same force that holds us glued down to the Earth is the same force that holds the waters glued to the surface. It is the ether which emanates from the celestial sphere. Check out the Concave Earth Forum by the crazy Steven Christopher. Both Acenci and I were members of that forum. The "Lord" Steven Christ is nuts. He thinks he is the returned Christ. Other than that most of the stuff on his forum is true. Thanks for sharing your perspective is interesting about concave. But I still have some strange feelings about Concave. I feel like Flat Earth is more realistic or Spherical if flights disprove Flat Earth. If Steven thinks he is the returned Christ, he is dangerous.
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 27, 2016 5:45:08 GMT 1
I think that we are living in an energy field. Matter is energy and with the help of thought we create images, just like on television. Your idea is interesting. There could be a different kind of energy in the south. Although there are some weird persons living there, I could not feel a difference when I paid them a visit down under. Electromagnetic force? Hmm, almost. Probably close enough but not similar. Perhaps, there is something that mystery we haven't discovered. Otherwise, I will have to try find a formal word for it. We could use Electromagnetic Force for now. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 11:35:49 GMT 1
I do not have any problems with anyone's thinking, given that I believe in flat earth, which is outrageous to the majority of people. Regarding our hypotheses, I also forgot this one, which I mentioned on that thread at theflatearthsociety.org: www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62950.msg1665344#msg1665344I found evidence of delays. Also, whatever doubts I have regarding the flights, they are wiped out when I look at the Pythagorean theorem, at the supposed curvature, and at all the things that are being seen on the horizon. Let me ask you one simple question. Do you think ALL EVERY non-stop flights in south hemisphere had delays, refuels, and alters routes? Can you tell me what is exact your hypotheses? I have no problem about horizon. But you seem still ignore evidence 12 hours flight or 9 hours flight in South Hemisphere. That would unfortunately disprove Flat Earth theory. Seriously, I'm considering to buy a ticket for Sydney to Santiago non-stop flight. If I get to Santiago from Sydney in 12 hours, I will say goodbye to Flat Earth theory. I'm thinking about doing it during my vacation this year or next year. I need to find truth myself with my own barely eyes. I recently looked the thread in FES that you created. I read lot of it, but it seems that lot of people included you were keep pointing at flaws flights such as 1 stop in Europe, delays, refuels, etc.... Why not you ignore those flaws? Focus on those flight that fly between Sydney and Santiago or different places SUCCESSFULLY. They would cause Flat Earth difficulties. Repeatedly, how can you explain 9-12 hours successfully non-stop flights in South Hemisphere? Regarding the flights that goes from Sydney to Santiago, I think it does not go there or it takes longer. I still do not have a proof that it happens. The fact that someone says he took that flight is not enough to me. There are also lies on the web. For example, some people even say that 911 was done by Bin Laden, and that is clearly a lie, because everyone knows it was done by the US government. And, if you take that flight, not only will you be the most practical flat earther (or former flat earther) but also the richest one, because so far no one has gone that far. Regarding the evidence of a flat earth, let us not forget that the train, ship, and plane routes point to a flat earth: fsr.boards.net/post/154/threadfsr.boards.net/post/2440/threadAnd let us not forget the baby born in Alaska: fsr.boards.net/post/2746/thread
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 27, 2016 22:58:22 GMT 1
Acenci, thanks for sharing those video except The Flat Earth Mail Bag 50 minutes without any words or subtitles. No reason for me to watch because I'm 100% deaf. I can't hear... Other videos were interesting. So let me ask you. If I bought a ticket between Sydney and Santiago, I got to Sydney from Santiago in less than 14 hours SUCCESSFULLY. Will you sudden call me a liar?
In your previous thread in FES, you mentioned that you are sure that those video of flights in South Hemisphere were not government agency. You admitted that Flat Earth community might have problem. Lastly, you said that we might used wrong map.
Apparently, you decided to forget or ignore those evidence video of flights in South Hemisphere that are less than 14 hours non-stop flights. Assuming those videos were faking. I'm just curious if you already had a solution for those videos you posted in FES forum?
Beside, I'm feeling like Flat Earth community are already choked regards on South Hemisphere like here. No debunk for it. No solution for it. We decided to point at flaws flight. That's an unfortunately news. Could possibly lead to disproving Flat Earth..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 23:04:46 GMT 1
Sorry about not addressing your evidence, or even my own evidence that these flights might actually exist. However, we cannot all do everything. I also have to go to work every day... All in all, I have found abundant evidence that the earth is flat, so I opt for that choice. We have cal here, who says it is concave, and I am not calling him a liar, but I listen to him respectfully. However, my bet is that it is flat. In the past, cal and I interacted quite a bit with Lord Steven Christ, who says he is Jesus, and I don't rule it out, but I would bet that he is not, but I do not call him a liar either. So, certainly if you manage to board that flight and make the trip in 14 hours, through the expected route and at the expected speed, which I deem unlikely, but if you manage to do it, I will not call you a liar either. And once again, sorry if I momentarily have set aside the quest to debunk those flights.
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Post by cal on Feb 28, 2016 4:36:20 GMT 1
The 'bending of the waters' is the same as the rest of the Earth. We are living on the inside of a hollow concave sphere. The same force that holds us glued down to the Earth is the same force that holds the waters glued to the surface. It is the ether which emanates from the celestial sphere. Check out the Concave Earth Forum by the crazy Steven Christopher. Both Acenci and I were members of that forum. The "Lord" Steven Christ is nuts. He thinks he is the returned Christ. Other than that most of the stuff on his forum is true. Thanks for sharing your perspective is interesting about concave. But I still have some strange feelings about Concave. I feel like Flat Earth is more realistic or Spherical if flights disprove Flat Earth. If Steven thinks he is the returned Christ, he is dangerous. abcv2v, Thanks for your interaction. Acenci believes in the typical flat earth disk model. I have proven on this and on other forums that the distances across the surface of the earth are consistent with spherical earth distances. However, the earth is not a round ball, but rather the inside of a hollow concave earth. Therefore the distances will be identical since they are inverted. However, your hunch about flat earth is correct. The earth is both concave and flat. Check out the thread re Ernst Barthel which I have started on this forum. He showed in the early twentieth century that the earth is a totally flat plane which like a mobius strip bends back onto itself. Thus the earth is a maximal sphere and space actually bends. The entire universe is essentially enclosed within this sphere. This is a viewpoint which very few people have been promulgating. I am one of a select few who have come to this conclusion.
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Post by abcv2v on Feb 29, 2016 17:04:20 GMT 1
Good morning, I want to let you know that I had a dream last night. For some reason, I'm feeling like it was a sign. That was not the point. In the dream, I watched YouTube about the flights in South Hemisphere, and my excitements were increasing due to a solution for Flat Earth flights in South Hemisphere. In a few second, I realized that I was in dream. When I woke up, I just can remember ONE word clearly. Just one word. "Vortex" I searched in YouTube and couldn't find anything about flights in South Hemisphere associated with Vortex. I remembered in my dream showed me that there is an invisible Vortex around oceans in South Hemisphere that makes plane moves 2x-3x faster than it does. What do you guys think? Perhaps, "vortex" is a better word than electromagnetic force? Or do you guys have better words idea in your mind? Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 17:22:33 GMT 1
I am not an expert, but it seems possible. To me however the planes going at a faster speed or taking longer / arriving late seems more likely to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 20:10:53 GMT 1
Flat Earth Johannesburg to Sao Paulo flight SAA222 Spaceman
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