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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 5:11:43 GMT 1
Well, guys, until we will all get acquainted and are sure that no one gets offended for anything, let us remember our lesson we learned at IFERS.
Better to have too much freedom than turning the forum into IFERS. Let him write pages after pages off-topic. Then he will either get tired, and if he doesn't get tired, he makes friends with us, and then he will allow us to move them to another thread.
For everything else, there is voting. Let's try to not make anyone unhappy. We're only 3 people. For now, if he posts things that bother you or fills up the thread with non-related posts, you could put him in your ignore list, so the posts will disappear.
Then, later, once we are all good friends, it will be easier to reach a compromise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 11:42:01 GMT 1
Andrea and I finished our conversation. No voting necessary, as far as I am concerned. I never vote.
But we can talk about Mark if you want. I have an opinion as well about him although just don't give it too much meaning, it's just an opinion.
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Post by heathen on Feb 25, 2016 6:07:05 GMT 1
Flat Earth Big Mail Bag - SW44 markksargent
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Ass kissing.
Patricia's and Mark's grace and mercy made someone rethink leaving FE. And gave both a "kudos, for rising above it all", "all" being the infighting and drama.
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Post by heathen on Feb 25, 2016 6:20:09 GMT 1
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Post by heathen on Feb 25, 2016 6:22:31 GMT 1
Is Mark the best troll ever? Serious question.
Who can get away with such an answer? Who is imagining God above the firmament firing a rail gun of iron ore at his creation?
Rambo God. Hilarious.
"What is that Dad?"
"Son, our Father in heaven is firing at us with his railgun again. But he tries to aim for the less populated areas so he doesn't hurt anyone."
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Post by heathen on Feb 25, 2016 6:28:52 GMT 1
Hold on, I'm gonna post this on this video. ok, I changed it up a bit to be more clear. Linked comment
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Post by heathen on Feb 25, 2016 6:44:25 GMT 1
youtu.be/WcxVEKM1t4Q?t=2947Mark says, "what's not to like?", about Patricia, "Ppffft, She's extremely attractive, especially considering her age!" Man, I have one clip of Mark saying something that I'm not gonna post. Been holding off on it because I wanted to use it in a spoof video if I ever do one. I am also looking for a good, "NIIIIIiiiice".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 7:00:07 GMT 1
There is so much material for making fun of him, and even pointing out contradictions, but I still have a conflict of interest, because he once subscribed to my channel, even for just a week.
Regarding your remark on God, he does not seem to believe that there is a God up there, but other humans, basically. He said it once, and I posted it here, just as I pointed out that he once said he was a Christian, but he clearly has nothing to do with that doctrine.
Also, I can't quote those great clips you posted, because I already have few views and few likes, so it makes no sense to focus and attack specific people, as if I were the opposition to them. I don't feel that I won't make a difference, so it's comical to speak out against them.
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Post by heathen on Feb 25, 2016 7:07:36 GMT 1
I just think it's funny. And earlier in the video there was a mail in about God above the firmament looking down on us.
I personally don't understand your conflict of interest. But that's fine. This is for future reference for myself and for anyone who happens to want to read about Mark's ideas. Like something found in a search engine.
Video actually makes it hard to find quotes from people. Mark Sargent doesn't write a book defending his model. He uses videos.
I care about what the leaders say as they create the atmosphere of the movement they lead. There are Christian's who follow Mark.
I don't really care very much about FE itself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 11:06:56 GMT 1
Mark is the mythbuster of mythbusters, so it will be hard to mythbust Mark. 'Is it proof of the flat earth? NoooOOOO'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 13:23:46 GMT 1
Yes, with Mark, I have this problem. He has been nice to me a few times before, and it is not easy being critical of him. Furthermore, we have been in touch a few times, and so it is harder to attack someone you know personally.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 13:34:20 GMT 1
Yes, with Mark, I have this problem. He has been nice to me a few times before, and it is not easy being critical of him. Furthermore, we have been in touch a few times, and so it is harder to attack someone you know personally. How about a compromise and maybe funny video: Have some silly or funny arguments/statements of several vloggers and after every argument/statement you place the voice of Mark saying "Is it proof of a flat earth? NoooOOO!" Listen to the video Heathen placed here just above, at 35 min 12 secs.
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Post by heathen on Feb 25, 2016 14:58:20 GMT 1
One thing I've learned- You can get away with saying things in video/audio that you couldn'the away with saying in print.
That being said, I already learned long ago, even in print, people can miss controversial things, until you highlight it.
But still, somehow in video, you can say things like, the builder shoots a railgun of iron ore at the earth, and that is what asteroids are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 15:05:14 GMT 1
If you want to mythbust the mythbuster of mythbusters, you can make a video with all his silly statements. Expose the mythbuster of mythbusters!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 17:05:31 GMT 1
Yes, with Mark, I have this problem. He has been nice to me a few times before, and it is not easy being critical of him. Furthermore, we have been in touch a few times, and so it is harder to attack someone you know personally. How about a compromise and maybe funny video: Have some silly or funny arguments/statements of several vloggers and after every argument/statement you place the voice of Mark saying "Is it proof of a flat earth? NoooOOO!" Listen to the video Heathen placed here just above, at 35 min 12 secs. Excellent idea. That is like quoting people out of context, which I just did in my last video, to some extent. The video titled "Flat Earth: Charmaine". I will consider it in the future. It is similar to Fakespaceman in Space videos, when he quoted them out of context, especially with the clip "You can put Patricia's face on the moon".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 17:07:03 GMT 1
One thing I've learned- You can get away with saying things in video/audio that you couldn'the away with saying in print. That being said, I already learned long ago, even in print, people can miss controversial things, until you highlight it. But still, somehow in video, you can say things like, the builder shoots a railgun of iron ore at the earth, and that is what asteroids are. Yes, that is a good quote, I will probably use it in the future. I could not use it today.
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Post by heathen on Feb 25, 2016 20:27:57 GMT 1
Yes, the thought about a video compilation of Mark's Mythbusters of Mythbusters comments has come to mind but never too deeply.
My video idea was more focused on something specific.
Speaking of out of context, I have one clip I haven't divulged yet. You guys may not think it's that big of deal, but out of context could be hilarious. Especially with what he says about Patricia above.
By the way, I only have 66 more posts left and then my job is done here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 20:35:29 GMT 1
I am in a depressed mood due to the office and due to not being acknowledged as YouTube movie director.
I still wanted to say hi, and give you some feedback, but it may not be very cheerful.
In case you really go at 666 posts, because you work for the Devil, it was nice having you here. And I hope you will keep in touch with private messages from time to time, since that will not affect your post count.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 21:22:49 GMT 1
I'm sorry to hear that you are depressed because you don't get what you want. It might not cheer you up, though.
Only a few people are lucky that they get loved and hated. Do you want to be like Mark or Patricia? Flat earth is a niche market. So, maybe you could make videos about other topics as well if being famous and succesful is your goal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 21:29:41 GMT 1
I feel good in the flat earth community. I share most beliefs by the others, so I will try to stay focused on the vlogs. Maybe I should keep doing what works and cut down on my experiments... as Goebbels once said, "experiments belong in the lab", "Experimente gehören ins Laboratorium" (for our German friend @flatter): Dr. Goebbels - Rede über den Rundfunk Kanal von progradandize
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Post by heathen on Feb 26, 2016 1:35:10 GMT 1
Linked commentI received a response! Finally! (well, not the first response. I actually talked to this same person before on another Sargent video and I provided him my favorite link with Mark and Patricia talking about leaving this place.) Here it is~ I responded~
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Post by heathen on Feb 26, 2016 1:50:22 GMT 1
I now added, I would have put this in the post above but things weren't working for me... I asked him if he heard that in the video because I want to know if he actually heard it and thought it was reasonable. I can only guess if he watched the video. How does this sound reasonable to anyone? What is going on???
Ok, he responded~ He uses the term, "programming". Sounds like a "built" enclosed world too. Hearing Mark say that, makes me think I wasted my time even trying to make my argument between knowledge of the genuine and the artificial. His answers like that sound like a joke. No matter if people take all that Mark's says as long as they take in the idea of an artificial system. It's amazing. Atheism has the natural and now Intelligent Design has the artificial. But it was God who creates and bestows the genuine and the real. This is all convuluted.
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Post by heathen on Feb 26, 2016 3:16:19 GMT 1
I now added, I would have put this in the post above but things weren't working for me... I asked him if he heard that in the video because I want to know if he actually heard it and thought it was reasonable. I can only guess if he watched the video. How does this sound reasonable to anyone? What is going on???
Ok, he responded~ He uses the term, "programming". Sounds like a "built" enclosed world too. Hearing Mark say that, makes me think I wasted my time even trying to make my argument between knowledge of the genuine and the artificial. His answers like that sound like a joke. No matter if people take all that Mark's says as long as they take in the idea of an artificial system. It's amazing. Atheism has the natural and now Intelligent Design has the artificial. But it was God who creates and bestows the genuine and the real. This is all convuluted. ok, I added~ +Jeff Frazier, Intelligent Design is constructed design? While Atheism is natural processes?
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Post by heathen on Feb 26, 2016 15:23:47 GMT 1
Now Fakespace Cadet responded to me. He said he will add the railgun comment to his next video. Not that I asked him to. m.youtube.com/watch?v=tWfk4ZtjzFAdumbest flat earth QUOTES ever FakeSpace Cadet
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 18:50:31 GMT 1
I would love to see a real flattering fan video about Mark. Next week a year past after his Big Awakening.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:04:03 GMT 1
That would be nice, but it would be sarcastic. In our style. We make a video about him, saying how wonderful he is, and that is automatically a sarcastic video.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:25:34 GMT 1
Got no clue what I should do. But I'll go crazy if I can't get next to you (Mark). (Lyrics from A-Teens - Upside Down)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:31:12 GMT 1
Nice toothpaste ad, it would go well together with Mark's videos. Ok, I will get to work now, and use it as a soundtrack.
As quotes, I will use all the quotes we gathered in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:38:06 GMT 1
nice!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 22:10:14 GMT 1
I don't like to flatter, but you did a good job!
We should work on part 2
btw, am I deleted there as well?
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