Mark Sargent

Thanks for the tip. I am listening to it right now.

On the show he goes by "Robert" but his real name is Sean McCrary. This is his YouTube channel:
www.youtube.com/user/fc2mccrary/videos

min.5-6
"Robert" is 28 years old (started in 2006, right after high school)

min.8
He came to flat earth by browsing videos on YouTube

min.9
He came to flat earth in September 2014, adds Mark Sargent

min. 11
Robert tells us about his tests.

min.13
Robert tells us about his observation of ships on the horizon and how this confirms a lack of curvature

Now, Mark and Robert have been disclosing almost every detail of his career in the Navy. According to our opinion on the powers that be, Robert will risk losing his job or even his life.

min. 18
Robert tells about discussing flat earth with other people in the military

min. 19
Robert tells us he's not worried about his higher-ups

min. 21
Robert says people are so indifferent to the subject that he just doesn't worry about it -- although he doesn't really get the question, that is rather "are you afraid for your job and life?" or maybe he is dodging it. I don't know. I know that if you talk about chemtrails in the military, you risk your job and your life.

min.44
some of their radars can see 200 miles away (implying a drop of 11 kilometers on a spherical earth)



min.60 and next 10 minutes, then again starting at minute 75
They explain how the maps are all wrong and it is shown by how long it takes the ship to go from one spot to another


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feedback from Steve:



Mark Sargent & the US Navy PSYOPS (2nd Net)
Lord Steven Christ

After this video and the one with the navy guy, I have to admit that Mark Sargent has risen in my personal preference, and now my top 3 are: TheMorgile, Mark Sargent and Rob Skiba. Actually I have a top 4, because waykiwayki is still the best one of them all.

Eric Dubay v Mark Sargent Flat earth
Mind Fulness

It does seem a little spooky to me that he is now getting these interviews. Especially the guy who sent verification videos of himself on the helicopter and the video where he wrote the note about flat earth and mark sargent, which proves he is who he says he is.

But it could just be that Mark seems stable and normal and attracts these more level headed professionals. One of them even said he chose Sargent to contact because he seemed normal.

This is Sean, the Missile instructor:



US Navy Missile Instructor Proof of Service - Flat Earth
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US Navy Missile Instructor Proof of Tour - Flat Earth
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His real name is Sean McCrary. This is his YouTube channel:
www.youtube.com/user/fc2mccrary/videos

Took me a second to get what you meant. It's the globe, right? haha.

I watched around the times you gave and didn't find that part as disturbing as you.  I guess it is odd for him to say "it's us" when chemtrails are supposed to be coming from human made planes anyway.  I think #2 sounds the most plausible but I have always wondered what conspiracy theories he went thru before flat earth because I haven't heard him talk about those theories.  I'd think he would have a ton to say about it or to at least give us the impression he knows about all sorts of conspiracies..  How he addresses "the authority" is odd to me, he doesn't say authorities, but the authority.  Is that authority God or Lucifer or some Power?  Who is the authority?

What constantly irritates me is how he keeps talking as if our world was created to look like a globe and the night sky to look like space.  When I watched around the part of the video you quoted I heard him again say the night sky is something akin to television projection as well.  How does he know?  He says the earth is flat but also adds the night sky is a projection and fake?  

If God is equivalent to truth, or truth is based in God as Christianity has said, then how could God purposefully create a world to look like the very deception that he is trying to expose?  So, again, he needs to start discussing his theological ideas so we all know where he is coming up with his theories that he attaches to flat earth.  Before heliocentrism, the earth looked flat to people and the night sky didn't look like the heliocentric outer space.  But he says our world is supposed to look like a globe when it isn't?  Then whoever created it, created deception?  I don't know of anyone else who puts these questions to him when they should be since he is telling us this stuff in plain sight.

Patricia Steere w/Mark Sargent. #16. Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes
Flat Earth and other hot potatoes

1:43:48
"ISIS...are one of our OPS"

1:45:50
"The Russians and the Americans have never been enemies"

1:46:17
"Cold War... not happening"

And many other things he says all the way to 1:49:30.

OK, basically I've changed my mind again.

Mark Sargent is a full-fledged truther, with great intelligence and knowledge about everything. BUT he knows stuff he is not telling us about God and his opinion.

He is not telling us his real opinion on religion and on his spiritual thoughts.

This is all I am saying. He must have lied when he said he is a "Christian" (on that fakeologist interview).

This is the only way I can reconcile everything he has said in the last 6 months.

More at 1:53:00
He says that maybe the dome was built by humans. Getting further and further from the Christian perspective.

1:56:00
"The builders in this case built this place..."
More talk where he says that... it wasn't God but it was humans who built "this place" (flat earth) to make it look like a sphere!

But since the Bible says the earth is flat, then he is denying the bible!!!

And this guy calls himself a "Christian"?

Blasphemous son of a bitch! He says that the flat earth is all fake and built specifically to deceive humans!

1:58:10
A listener makes my same point, and he argues against it. And, finally, sums up his religious beliefs: "I do believe in a creator, but we have to keep our options open".

Bingo! Not a Christian at all, but sincere about everything he says -- except the time he lied about being a Christian.

He is not a Christian, and he has lied about it. This much we can now say for sure.

Other than this, he doesn't lie and he is not an agent. But he must come out of the closet on spiritual matters and say what he really believes, instead of telling us that he is a Christian.

Ultimately, Mark Sargent and I may agree on most things, including on our blasphemous way of being Christians. He probably agrees with me that God may not be "good". I don't understand this obsession of people with saying that "God is infinitely good and merciful and just". If he is, then we are allowed to say that he is not, and we will be forgiven for it. I don't think a good God will appreciate people kissing up to him and lying about it. I just had to answer a survey yesterday at my bank, that asked me "are you proud of working for this bank?". I answered "not at all", because I am not going to allow this bank to force me into kissing up to it, and forcing me to lie on a supposedly anonymous survey. It is a disgusting behavior, in the spirit of Nazi Germany's electoral ballots. So, in the same way, I am not going to kiss up to God. At least he should appreciate that I am not lying.

One last thing to mention is that in the show (I didn't write down the time unfortunately) he says that flat earth will go viral within 2 years. I don't know if I agree, because also JFK truth, the Titanic truth, the Bay of Tonkin truth, 911 truth all should have gone viral but did not. The sheeple remained the majority of the population, and the reason is that there is only a certain and constant percentage of freethinkers, they die out, they do not multiply... could it be different for flat earth and why?

The only difference is that flat earth is not linked to the life of one person (such as JFK or others) and so maybe the spreading of flat earth truth could work differently, but other than this, I don't think it is different, and furthermore Rowbotham and the others from over 100 years ago, might have felt the same, and yet their truth did not spread.

The Flat Earth Deception - Don't Get Fooled Again
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Patricia Steere w/Mark Sargent. #16. Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes

Flat Earth and other hot potatoes


Mark's answer to meteors presupposes his own sky theory being true.

What evidence does he have to back this up?  I think this bothers me more so now because, I really think people listen to this and take it as real, and not just some guy telling weird stories about his own beliefs.






 

Somewhat related to this, he also says that volcanoes were built purposely, and that they could never wipe out the flat earth, because they weren't meant to. But then he is also saying that God built volcanoes despite the fact that they hurt humans. Or he is saying that God didn't build the flat earth, as I pointed out he recently said (see a previous post in this thread).

Wish I was as convinced. I hope it's true.

Here's what I wonder, why doesn't Rob Skiba question Mark on these things, like humans building the dome. Rob Skiba is a Christian but did Rob Skiba ever ask about Mark's weird ideas about the dome builders? Maybe Rob Skiba has, I don't listen to him very much. But I do recall listening to him on Mark's show at least once. Like, questions about what influences Mark to talk about dome builders and that maybe humans built it? What books does Mark read?

Flat Earth Clues Interview 34 - Jeff Young's Music without Boundaries
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First big shot flat earther, with his own Wikipedia entry:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Young

His Facebook page:
www.facebook.com/jymwob

His Facebook background:




He's a full-fledged truther. One of his photos:






Megadeth - Dave Mustaine & Jeff Young
ThrashMetalTube

I'm watching this now.  Near the beginning Mark is saying not to use the term flat earth when talking about it, but use, enclosed world, enclosed earth, Truman show, dome....use movie references.Use Under The Dome television series.  Use The Simpsons movie, the dome.  Use Dark City (a thoroughly depressing movie).  

Here's the thing when he says to use movies and television, both he and Jonathon both have talked about predictive programming, so they know of such a theory.  Whether it's real or not is beside my point since I will just say it could be real in some fashion.  Mark is telling us to use movies and tv shows that relate to a flat or enclosed earth to talk to other people about flat earth.  Consider this, if predictive programming is real, we are being told to use the programming to discuss flat earth with mainstream people.  Now put doing that method, along with Mark's ideas of us being enclosed in manufactured world with a fake night sky, possibly made by humans.

He often references Dark City and I watched it recently.  I think it is a thoroughly depressing movie and it has a lot to do with the "mandela effect" in that people's memories are wiped, rearranged and given new memories when the builders decide to do so (every night, I think).  The builders even create new buildings from their thoughts.  And they are doing that to find the soul to try to make themselves humans since their race is dying.

Anyway, just throwing that out there because it's what I have been wondering about.  I am not saying Mark is doing anything more than referencing ideas that would easily relate to other people in a discussion about flat earth.  But, I cannot help but consider these other thoughts as well.

Now Jonathon has said before that predictive programming is just a way to put true things in movies so when people do start talking about certain things people will dismiss that person's ideas as being stolen from fictional movies.

I may comment more after I get to what I really want to hear, Mark talk about his metaphysical beliefs.