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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 13:59:51 GMT 1
Above average interview to Mark Sargent, by a host who knows very little about flat earth and space fakery:
Flat Earth Clues Interview 35 - Humanastory
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I did not know until I just heard it from the host: Mark Sargent was not just playing video games, but he was also a programmer. Respect!
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"Why are you so certain?". Exactly what I always wanted to ask Mark Sargent. Why does he push his concepts of "dome builders" and "enclosed world", that rely on zero evidence, almost as if he had a secret agenda? What does he care about the part that we do not know? Why doesn't he focus more on the proofs of flat earth, as all the other flat earthers do? Maybe he's still not a shill, but this is unusual. He doesn't really answer.
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Post by heathen on Oct 13, 2015 3:36:30 GMT 1
Where I time stamped it, it sounds like the project blue beam theory some have, could still work with flat earth, especially enclosed world. He seems to also still be thinking in terms of outer space.
Don't people have this theory where Aliens will say they created us (project blue beam)?
Exactly, it drives me crazy! I only rarely look at other forums, but I don't hear of anyone, or any videos, where people are wondering about these things he says (and doesn't say).
It's that mixed with his other ideas about enclosed world making us all be better people, we're all in the same apartment, etc. I think that throws up some red flags for me too because it doesn't make any sense that we would all be in a quasi-utopia, when people believed the earth was flat before and, it wasn't a utopia. And they believed in their religions and, didn't have a bunch of robotic atheists telling everyone they are on small meaningless dot in nothingness, and it wasn't a utopia. Sure, I have always agreed flat earth would likely be better for humans spiritually and psychologically, but never like how Mark puts it. I mean, I don't have a direct quote right now, but he said things along the lines of wars ending. That's what's weird to me too.
So we have enclosed world, dome builders, quasi-utopia after people realize the world is flat and enclosed. And, as I recall, wars ending, Kumbaya, but with the caveat it wouldn't be a pure utopia, there'd still be some problems (otherwise it'd sound even less believable). It's pretty weird, because there's no proof of a dome and he talks about the dome builders. So, who are the dome builders? If he says he doesn't know, well, why does he talk about them when there's no proof of a dome in the fashion he talks about? Up used to be the heavens...I think they thought the heavens enclosed us, so we pointed up for God and angels, and heaven...
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Post by heathen on Oct 13, 2015 4:26:53 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 14:58:31 GMT 1
Yes, we thoroughly agree on this. One more interview with Mark Sargent, since he was the guest on the latest Jeranism's show: GLOBEBUSTERS LIVE Episode 12 SPECIAL GUEST Mark Sargent GLOBEBUSTERS |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 15:50:53 GMT 1
Industrial Valve Expert: The ISS is a LIE - Flat Earth - SW25 markksargent min.7 He liked Bob Ross's videos: Bob Ross: Quiet Pond SteveCendersmin. 8 Mark reads an exchange of emails between one of his fans and an academic of astrophysics. Very interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 18:47:02 GMT 1
The Real Mark Sargent! The Flat Earth Mark Sargent is a Character inspired by the MS Exec Anthony B. |
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Post by heathen on Oct 17, 2015 5:07:08 GMT 1
GLOBEBUSTERS LIVE Episode 12 SPECIAL GUEST Mark Sargent GLOBEBUSTERS Published Oct. 12, 2015 Time Stamp: 147:06 Time stamped at listener question concerning why Mark focuses on the enclosed system along with Mark's answer. I can see Mark's logic. But of course, I will still be paying close attention to what Mark says concerning the dome and the builders. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 8:57:11 GMT 1
I must admit that all these flat earth youtubers share one common quality: they're extremely intelligent. Mark Sargent, Jeranism, TheMorgile, Eric Dubay, TigerDan925, Matt Boylan, Rob Skiba, Stargods, Stars are Souls... some may be mentally imbalanced, but they are all very intelligent.
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Post by heathen on Oct 26, 2015 5:30:07 GMT 1
Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes 22 with Patricia Steere markksargentPublished on Oct 24, 2015 At 16:29 he says The Book of Enoch tells us how the world was built. He also says to read the book of Jasher. I have no idea what the book of Enoch says. But I may see if I can find what it says concerning how the world was built. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 6:17:00 GMT 1
That's another thing I found very fishy in this show. How all of a sudden Mark Sargent says that if flat earth becomes mainstream knowledge, there will be a paradigm shift towards religion, and there will be no atheists any longer. I find that contradictory for him to say, given that with his eternal "dome builders" talk, he has cearly and extensively conveyed to us that he thinks that the "dome builders" are none other than scientists messing with us, as subjects of a lab test. So this show, and whenever he talks about the coming "paradigm shift" for religion is the part that seems most fishy to me about Mark Sargent, and makes me feel that Eric Dubay might have been right. But this is the only part that makes me think of him as a "shill". For Dubay instead, as a term of comparison, nothing ever made me think of him as a "shill", nor for Jeranism, nor for any other flat earther or debunker for that matter.
But Mark Sargent seems to know more than what he says, and think otherwise than what he says, and he seems to contradict himself every once in a while, precisely on the subject of religion. I've got a whole list on my mind of such contradictions, starting from the fakeologist interview when he promptly replied "Yes! I am a Christian" to the question if he was a Christian.
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Post by heathen on Oct 28, 2015 3:54:14 GMT 1
Yes, he does seem to come across like he knows more, or maybe believes he does?
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Post by heathen on Oct 28, 2015 3:55:17 GMT 1
Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes 22 with Patricia Steere markksargentPublished on Oct 24, 2015 31:37 "Kent Hovind should be the next one." Probably just me, but I felt awkward after he said that and at 31:46 in particular. Why would Mark say he should be the next one? Then he says, the next one after that, then Patricia says, Alex Jones. He says, Maybe, maybe....But never really says the 3rd one. He talks about Joe Rogan but I don't think he meant to say him as the 3rd person to come out. I don't know, I felt like something awkward happened there. Just saying, just my feelings. And Alex Jones? Haha, I hope he doesn't try to discuss it whatsoever. I'd be ok with him being completely against FE if he did discuss it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 16:44:24 GMT 1
More Flat Earth Mail Bag - SW27
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Oddly, Mark Sargent keeps giving advice to the powers that be, telling them that their strategies to suppress flat earth are not working, and to stop them. But it seems to me that they have much more power than just fabricating news against flat earth. They could very easily make a couple of flat earthers disappear, if they really cared to suppress flat earth. I think it would work. They could have bought up all the domains, too, which they didn't, and now Paul Michael Bales is buying all of them. Bottom line: I don't think the powers that be are after flat earth at all.
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Mark Sargent jokes around with Jonathan. He picked up Jonathan along the way because one day Jonathan sent him chocolates or cookies if I remember correctly. How realistic is this story? He became co-host, just because he sent cookies to Mark Sargent. This story is fishy.
Another fishy story is how he embraced from the start Patricia Steere. Why do these two people get to be Mark Sargent's best friends, and he hasn't even joined my forum after I got kicked out from IFERS for saying that maybe he is not a "shill"? But he goes out of his way to help these two strangers who are now his best friends?
It could be true, or it could be that the three of them are agents.
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Post by heathen on Oct 28, 2015 18:20:19 GMT 1
I think the love/romance vibe between Patricia and Mark is suspicious too. In videos when they're both together I see comments on their videos with people discussing them getting married, etc. It is like a flat earth love story happening on camera. And before she popped up Mark and others kept saying FE needs a woman. I always thought, well, why do they care so much? No one is stopping women from making videos on FE. And then she rose to the top of things with Mark into the FE love story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 19:08:03 GMT 1
And also Johnathan and Mark Sargent are too close. With a friendly, intelligent and outgoing guy like Mark Sargent, by now he would have 100 similar conspiracy theory friends, all lining up to have a radio show with him, but hell no, he seems to have no friends at all, despite his friendliness, and he can afford to just enroll on his own show the first guy who sent him cookies.
Where are all his contacts from decades of conspiracy theory research? I have been in flat earth since February, and I already have 100 contacts, of people who either like me or hate me. But he instead was totally unknown, despite being so talented, generous, intelligent... this seems suspicious, and it seems to validate the hypothesis that he just came out of nowhere because he was ordered to do so by someone.
Having said this, Eric Dubay is delusional and all the other names in his shills lists are very unlikely.
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Post by heathen on Oct 29, 2015 6:04:44 GMT 1
Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes 22 with Patricia Steere markksargentPublished on Oct 24, 2015 46:29 and forward to at least 47:28. I cannot believe I heard them say these things. I felt they talked dumb to us simpletons, they both think what's outside is "cool"? Haha, what the eff? How stupid can you talk to your audience about a topic like that? Yeah, cool, what's outside the dome we have no idea but it's worthwhile to try and get out because they think outside the dome is cool? This sounds like some messed up sh*t to me but couched in a quasi-romance narrative between two people none of us know. I feel, and this seems to me, like this is an interactive story to tell us stuff like what I quoted above. In other videos he talks about humans being like scorpions kept in a box to protect what's outside the dome from us and now he is saying it's worthwhile to try and get out? And the incentive for getting out is because of human behavior towards each other? And they both tell us they think it's "cool" on the outside, as though we are retards in the movie Idiocracy. We're in a dome, dome, dome, dome, dome, with dome builders, dome builders, dome builders, and now lets chat about breaking out because we're in a dome and it's cool on the outside? |
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Post by heathen on Oct 29, 2015 6:43:10 GMT 1
r. Kent Hovind Q&A - Human Animal Hybrids, NASA Moon Landing, Lapse Theory, Logicked, Quiet Tape Kent Hovind OFFICIALPublished on Oct 28, 2015As of today, Kent Hovind is still a helio-centrist (time stamped, 14:28). Mark says he should be next. Let's wait and see if Mark is correct. |
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Post by heathen on Oct 30, 2015 17:45:11 GMT 1
Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes 22 with Patricia Steere markksargentPublished on Oct 24, 2015 46:29 and forward to at least 47:28. Posted the above at flatearthtruth.freeforums.netA person named moji responded~ flatearthtruth.freeforums.net/post/4673/thread This interesting to me because traditionally religion taught people to transcend the material for the divine/spiritual. They taught us to surrender to God, which is Truth, rather than anger, fears, confusion, and external forces. By doing this you become liberated. But with what I am understanding above, we are trapped in this dome or, sim, and liberation is to leave it? Maybe I will copy and paste my response on the other forum. Two people liked the quote that is right above. I don't get it, why should we now believe this would be liberation from the material environment? I see no reason to believe that it would be liberation. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 17:50:18 GMT 1
Hmm, too much transcendental unfounded speculation on that forum. It reminds me of the Mandela effect discussion we've had. I prefer to avoid discussions that are based on a series of unfounded hypotheses. I agree with the part that we are trapped, but I would not go as far as making any of those other hypotheses about who's doing this to us. Moji is an asshole who threatened to delete two of my posts by the way, because they provided too many videos. After that, I deleted my account there. Details here: fsr.boards.net/post/1664/threadOf course, keep writing thoughts on anything here and there. I am not suggesting that others should agree with me. |
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Post by heathen on Nov 1, 2015 22:16:35 GMT 1
Flat Earth Clues Interview 36 - Revolution Radio with Patricia Steere via Skype Audio markksargentPublished on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Post by heathen on Nov 2, 2015 2:22:23 GMT 1
Flat Earth Clues Interview 36 - Revolution Radio with Patricia Steere via Skype Audio markksargentPublished on Nov 1, 2015 41:35~ After he says that he goes on to say that 41:45 What's he saying, the earth looks like a globe until the civilization reaches a certain level of development where the technology detects it isn't a globe, but is instead flat? |
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Post by heathen on Nov 2, 2015 3:23:49 GMT 1
Flat Earth Clues Interview 36 - Revolution Radio with Patricia Steere via Skype Audio markksargentPublished on Nov 1, 2015 He's giving me all sorts of quotes today. 45:53 Sure Mark........but it seems to me you are trying to edge in the idea that it may be a higher civilization who made the dome. Then he goes on to say how the dome or flat earth will give a lot of voltage to religion. Even says that some people will sell their homes, if it's possible, to go see the edge. But if it isn't God who made the dome why would the edge be of religious significance? Doesn't that mean the major religions are still wrong? It's almost like this higher civilization are like aliens who have enclosed us here...on this flat earth. Did they also create us? Is this why we should think it's probably "cool" outside the dome? You should listen to this episode, earlier one of the guy claims to have talked to someone who would know about the edge, and who wouldn't say much about it, except it is like another dimension and somewhere you don't want to go. At 49:14 a guy talks more about his interview concerning the edge, he says he got the impression it was like the Bermuda Triangle, like you couldn't come back. Time stamped link1:23:58, "to help us move forward to whatever new age, we create."1:25:34, "I think at one point the globe concept was artificially introduced. And I think the people that built this had a hand in it, because, and I talked about it in the Clues, and that is human beings have a really really hard time with confinement of any kind. Doesn't matter if it's a very very comfortable well designed confinement. And so the globe model was introduced and then it caught on. And with some fancy numbers......". Time stamped link. So, an artificially introduced concept or was this place designed to pretend to be a globe? Or both?
Yet, at the same time we are also to believe that previous to helio-centrism all cultures believed the earth was flat and enclosed and somehow people were mentally and spiritually fine with it. See, it's flipped around here. On the one hand, the globe hides God, which deprives humans of God and being the center of the universe. On the other hand, the globe provides humans no enclosures because humans don't like confinement and they would have a really really hard time with the enclosure.... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 7:24:13 GMT 1
Yes, as I said before, this talk is the most suspicious part of Mark Sargent. Everything else seems fine. But this talk about the "dome builders" (whom he lately even referred to as "people") from the first days in March is really suspicious, especially if you couple it with the fact that he promptly replied "Yes!" when he was asked on that Fakeologist chat if he was a "Christian".
And what about "new age"? He might even be demonically possessed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 16:30:15 GMT 1
Flat Earth with Sasha from Orphan Red - SW28 markksargent More phone sex from Orphan Red and Mark Sargent. I am 11 minutes into it, and I still have not heard one useful sentence about flat earth, and I have a feeling that the bullshit will be 99% of this show, just as all of Patricia Steere's shows. I don't know if it is Mark Sargent or Patricia Steere, or both, who brought bullshit and infotainment to flat earth. Unlike Jeranism and MrThriveAndSurvive who are in it partly for the money and at least pretend to be interested in flat earth, Mark Sargent does not care at all about the money, and he can afford to talk bullshit and waste 100% of our time. Eric Dubay is an asshole but at least his bullshit is down to zero percent. I am now at minute 13, and they're playing a quiz with Canadian personalities. I can't believe Mark Sargent can get away with squeezing all this nonsense into flat earth and still get 23 likes vs. 2 dislikes on such videos (and 1 dislike is from me):  ---- That's it, busted! Case closed -- she is possessed. Just kidding, but seriously, they managed to corrupt her. She was a great and promising YouTuber, with her geometry demonstrations, and she only lasted until she wasn't noticed by Sargent and Steere, who managed to turn her into an idiot: Flat Earth "Orphan Red" SHILL Flat Earth is Flat regardless Dude dave johnson ---- As a matter of fact, her timbre, her cleavage, her giggling reminds me very much SNL's Victoria Jackson: Victoria Jackson on Letterman 1990 Cleavage Wardrobe Issues friscodisneyVictoria Jackson: Journalist - Saturday Night Live Saturday Night LiveCold Opening: Tonight Show - Saturday Night Live Saturday Night Live |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 17:11:04 GMT 1
Perceptions 8 - Flat Earth Call Ins
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Mark Sargent tells us what he thinks of the "dome builders", god, UFOs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 19:28:56 GMT 1
 As you can see, Mark Sargent is about to be passed (within 48 hours) by Rob Skiba, and go to number #9 of top flat earth YouTubers. So why is it that we are talking more about Mark Sargent than Eric Dubay, who is #3? Because: 1) Eric Dubay uploads fewer videos 2) Eric Dubay interacts with fewer flat earthers, if any at all Sargent either hosts or is hosted by many other channels, and due to this, he is the most prominent flat earther of all flat earthers other than Eric Dubay. Another isolated one is Matt Boylan, but not as isolated as Eric Dubay. But he now seems to have opted out of this game. We have on one side one of the most serious but also most anti-social flat earthers, Eric Dubay, who gets subscribers because of hard work on flat earth. But he also plagiarizes other people's work, and never gives credit to anyone, unless they are dead (and can't compete with him anymore). On the other side, we have the most superficial flat earth researcher, but also the most social one, Mark Sargent, who gets subscribers and notoriety, because of his social skills, and his promotion of other flat earthers. Until now he has promoted the good side of flat earthers, and their research. But lately he has increasingly been promoting their stupidity, and entertaining in stupid radio shows with them. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 20:16:42 GMT 1
I can't help but again point out that Steere (and Sargent, too, to a lesser degree) has encouraged this flat earth researcher, who spent hours making geometry demonstrations of flat earth, to go in another direction, of the sexy kitten who gets drunk on camera. She wasn't like this before. She's going in the wrong direction, and all because Steere complimented her on her sexy appearance. I was the one who discovered her, over a month ago, and I complimented on her geometry. Not About the Flat Earth. Just a Friday vlogging thing... Orphan Red I am pretty sure that, within a few hours, she will remove this video, and go back to her geometry. So I will take a snapshot of her appearance, to show what I am referring to.  And this is from earlier on, when she was holding a glass of wine:  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 20:28:56 GMT 1
11.07.2015 Mark Sargent: Flat Earth Facts and Globe Earth Fictions part 1 Paul Sandhu |
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Post by heathen on Nov 7, 2015 20:49:34 GMT 1
I can't help but again point out that Steere (and Sargent, too, to a lesser degree) has encouraged this flat earth researcher, who spent hours making geometry demonstrations of flat earth, to go in another direction, of the sexy kitten who gets drunk on camera. She wasn't like this before. She's going in the wrong direction, and all because Steere complimented her on her sexy appearance. I was the one who discovered her, over a month ago, and I complimented on her geometry. Not About the Flat Earth. Just a Friday vlogging thing... Orphan Red I am pretty sure that, within a few hours, she will remove this video, and go back to her geometry. So I will take a snapshot of her appearance, to show what I am referring to. And this is from earlier on, when she was holding a glass of wine: What the hell was that? I got 5 minutes into it. I can't help but remember how Mark and others were saying the FE movement needs more women over and over and over like they were the H.R. department of FE. And now there's skin, boobs, and chat about dates and clothes in both sultry and cute tones. I'm glad I am mostly in this to analyze the movement and social dynamics because that's what they are giving me. No guy could get away with talking like that. It comes across like a comedy shtick with provocative dress. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 20:55:09 GMT 1
Yes, bingo! I told you. We both saw it coming. We can observe their behaviors from far away, given that they are not members here. So, then I will keep on criticizing them, because I feel like it, and because it has some usefulness.
Whether on purpose or not, within six months, thanks to Mark Sargent, flat earth has gone from 100% research to 90% superficial chat and 10% research.
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