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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 13:26:36 GMT 1
Whether Mark Sargent is an agent and he's messing with our minds on purpose or not, I am increasingly disturbed by his videos and his "dome builders" concepts ("maybe god subcontracted the job to a superior civilization", "whoever built this place", "the people that built this place", irreconcilable with "Yes! I am a Christian" that he promptly said on Fakeologist).
I am very close to the point that I'll stop looking at his channel altogether. I am bothered by his superficiality just as much as by his "dome builders". Everything else is good, that is to say his excellent military guests. But these two reasons are making me want to stop listening to him and Patricia Steere. Dubay is a psychopathic paranoid asshole though, so I won't listen to him either.
I think I will settle for TheMorgile, waykiwayki (but not his stupid comedy videos) and fakeman in space.
I really suspect that Mark is messing with our minds though. I can't be positive, and it'd be unfair to say so, because then I would be insulting a good person... He seems like the best person, but he is disturbing, he lied about being a Christian, and maybe he is messing with our minds.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 18:49:29 GMT 1
Here's another researcher who, much like wayki wayki, was lead astray and is now only uploading songs: www.youtube.com/user/TigerDan925/videosThe trend is clear. No more flat earth research. Just joking around, singing and relaxing. Nice! In the meanwhile there are people dying from Morgellons, 911 witnesses who are risking their lives, false flags to denounce and explain, such as the recent Charlie Hebdo: aren't these other "hot potatoes"? Nope. By "other hot potatoes" Patricia Steere meant discussing Orphan Red's sexual life and dressing up like Star Trek, to drink on video, and talk about old records and old movies. This is now the flat earth community.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 16:37:35 GMT 1
Mark Sargent has slowly been falling in the top ten chart, and now he is only at #9, quite surprising for someone who makes so much noise in the flat earth community. Eric Dubay on the other hand, who rarely uploads videos, is going up faster than ever. Considering that the other two YouTubers above him only upload occasionally flat earth videos, we could say that today Dubay is #1 flat earth YouTuber, and by far.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 16:48:07 GMT 1
In their latest video, Mark and Patricia are mostly talking about this video by Eric Dubay: fsr.boards.net/post/3109/threadThe Progress and Pitfalls of the Flat Earth Movement Eric Dubay Here's Mark and Patricia: Patricia Steere w/Mark Sargent. #31. Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes Flat Earth and other hot potatoes The whole first 30 minutes and the rest of this show, on and off, are about them being called "shills" by Eric Dubay. Check out the big brains of Mark and Patricia... I am now 42 minutes into it, and at about minute 35, someone asked a question about the sun, and Patricia knew nothing about it, and Mark said look it up in Jeffrey Grupp's videos. So, 42 minutes of talking about the flat earth scene, but zero information about flat earth. And this is because they're being serious. Usually they talk about even more irrelevant things. 47 minutes into it and still talking about what it feels like to be a flat earther. How about talking about "other hot potatoes" if you really do not want to give us any flat earth information? --- Immediate comment by Dubay, on his Patricia Steere defamation thread at IFERS: ifers.boards.net/thread/819/patricia-steere-steering-earth-movement?page=3
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 15:44:23 GMT 1
Flat Earth - US Army Field Artillery Radar Operator: No curve is used - SW29 markksargent minute 4 More about IFERS and how Eric Dubay is an asshole basically. minute 6 "the second Jeranism didn't say anything bad about me he got torched" It's not exactly just against Mark Sargent, but against anyone who doesn't completely agree with everything they say, and also anyone who represents competition for Eric Dubay minute 8 "Eric, you didn't invent flat earth, flat earth is 500 years old" minute 11 "Eric, lighten the fuck up" says Jonathan. "Eric, take down the video, where you go after an ethnic group", says Mark minute 19 Mark reads the anonymous statement by the US Army Field Artillery Radar Operator A little tip to Dubay, Sargent (and Steere): instead of wasting time defaming flat earthers and joking around with flat earthers, why don't you get a group of 50 people and start working on flat earth Wikipedia entries? Sargent and Steere, why don't you start hosting useful guests and especially using their time to explain flat earth and other hot potatoes instead of joking around with them? ---- Sargent and Steere often say no publicity is bad, even negative publicity. I understood this, when Dubay was defaming me and bringing hundreds of daily visits to "acenci's shill forums". A few months later Dubay has understood this, too, and stopped mentioning me at all. But he has still been defaming the other flat earthers, those who are already famous. However, this time, after over 24 hours, he still hasn't replied to Mark Sargent and Jonathan. I wonder if he's implementing this "no mentioning of your enemies" policy also for Mark Sargent. And also I wonder if Mark Sargent, Patricia Steere, and Jonathan are talking so intensely (as he has for the past 2 videos) about Eric Dubay just to get back at him and his video on them, or because of a strategy to get Eric Dubay to talk about them. I think it's the latter.
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Post by heathen on Nov 12, 2015 1:53:11 GMT 1
False Accusations within FLAT EARTH Jesse SpotsPublished on Nov 8, 2015 I am making a guess he is talking about Eric Dubay? Because he does use the name Eric once but he stays humorously vague and doesn't tell us what exactly he is talking about. I especially like how he says this person is physically fit, young, attractive, while writing it out for us with a marker. I'd like to know what exactly this person, whoever he is, said about Mark...Why is he so vague about the topic and the person? Just give us a link! I just found this funny~ Hey look, someone else notices. I call it an interactive story. Maybe I should call it an interactive reality show, or interactive soap opera? Anyway, I like to analyze how this is all happening, so works for me.
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Post by heathen on Nov 12, 2015 6:17:14 GMT 1
The Authority addresses the WWE roster: Raw, January 5, 2015WWEPublished on Jan 6, 2015
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 7:03:11 GMT 1
Regarding Jesse Spots, yes, he is talking about Eric Dubay, for sure. He finally says it at minute 7:14, reminding me that he could have made all his points in about 3 sentences, whereas he managed to use a whole 7 minutes, with a lot of useless diagrams, and without conveying clearly what he meant to say: "Eric Dubay is extremely popular, and, although he might be right about the Jews, he is too black and white, and he's giving a bad reputation to the flat earth community". There you have it, in one sentence.
Being unclear is his specialty, as I said several times. I can't stand that guy. He manages to make everything sound complicated, unnecessarily.
Every single one of his videos, instead of taking 10 minutes, could be synthesized in one clear sentence.
I really don't understand why Jesse Spots is so popular.
On the other hand, also the useless QuasiLuminous is extremely popular.
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Post by heathen on Nov 12, 2015 20:23:04 GMT 1
I recently read a comment, possibly in the above video by Jesse Spots, which connected Mark's address to The Authority to a WWE character of the same name. I don't watch WWE so had no idea of The Authority. Which is the reason I posted the video I went and found which says The Authority is back in power, dated Jan. 2015, apparently the beginning of their season.
I would like it if a caller asked Mark if that's where he got the name. I really wish I had made an attachment of that comment.
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Post by heathen on Nov 13, 2015 3:56:03 GMT 1
Also, There was a comic book called The Authority. Two interesting quotes from Wikipedia~
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 0:24:15 GMT 1
The usual giggling, flirting, and joking by Mark, Jonathan and Orphan Red (oh, and talking about the bullshit concept of the Mandela Effect, an Illuminati-promoted concept, as it is on Wikipedia, a fad, a bullshit concept that describes nothingness): Perceptions 9 - Interview with Sasha from Orphan Red markksargent I make documentaries, too. I have made two. One went viral and it has over 4,000 views already. Why was Orphan Red interviewed when she only had a few hundred views (I discovered her)? Do I have to show my salami on camera to get noticed in the flat earth movement? This is fishy to me. Also it's fishy how Mark and Jonathan met, allegedly because Jonathan sent cookies to Mark. There is no meritocracy in flat earth. Just kissing up. I didn't send cookies because I didn't want to kiss up. But that's the best of hypotheses, because I don't believe that's the case. They're agents who knew each other from the start. minute 24:36 "...whether it was inspired (an invention, Transcriber's Note) by spirit, as I would say..." So, OK, now Jonathan says that his inventions are inspired by spirits. This is demonic talk. Only artists who make a pact with the devil talk like this. On top of it, I've seen demonic references in Mark Sargent's videos, let alone his "dome builders" talk. I think these guys are not telling us the whole story on their spirituality, especially considering that Mark Sargent, when asked, replies that he is a Christian. ...searching... Bingo! I found Jonathan's satanic YouTube channel: Johnathan M.You can even see his face in one of his videos: Filming Joe Franklin in NYC Johnathan M. I think he could be jewish, this Jonathan. By how he looks. Or Italian-American. They're probably childhood friends with Mark Sargent, or they met at the CIA. Mark Sargent might have been hired by the CIA once he lost his job in the video game industry. That's why he doesn't need to "monetize" on YouTube.
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Post by heathen on Nov 14, 2015 4:03:00 GMT 1
So, is Mark and Jonathon pushing or, believing in, the Mandela effect? Along with Orphan Red? Sorry, I don't have time to listen to all these long discussions, especially when I am suspicious of most FE'er youtubers now.
I have seen Patricia support Jesse Spots Mandela Effect videos along with Insanity is Sanity. So, that's Jesse Spots, Insanity is Sanity, Patricia, and maybe the above three. Such a funny concept to put into Flat Earth because according to previous Jesse Spots videos, even land masses have been moving...I have been suspicious of this theory since I first watched Jesse Spots videos.
I think most of the examples of the Mandela Effect don't need anything other then normal human social behanior, influenced by pop culture/tv and humans being social animals mirror each other, creating a belief in a memory of how things were. Most of the examples are things most people wouldn't bother to even analyze to correct their understanding, Jif/Jiffy, Interview with A/The Vampire, etc etc. And these simple mistakes are being blown out of proportion and given bigger meaning than they are. Some examples, may make you wonder especially if you already like to wonder about such things, but most examples are just what I said above. I don't think any real work needs to be done to generate the belief in such a conspiracy. All that I see being done, is something humans already do was taken and exploited as a conspiracy. You just need people to generate the chatter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 15:07:23 GMT 1
Yes, exactly, with the misnomer "Mandela Effect" they are putting together: 1) things that people just remember wrongly because they don't know history 2) things that were purposely changed by the Illuminati to confuse us -- as described by Dr.Dunegan, who was telling us about the 1969 lecture by Dr.Day, where Dr.Day said the Illuminati would be changing things in books: rense.com/general94/nwoplans.htmOther important search terms from that transcript at rense.com are "NO MORE SECURITY" in tape 2, and "PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO GET USED TO CHANGE" in tape 1, and "demise pill", too. But the difference is that, thanks to the internet, people are noticing. But you see, the Mandela Effect is a concept to sway people from thinking that things are indeed being secretly changed to thinking that there are parallel realities and similar bullshit. As I said, that is virtually the only "conspiracy theory" that is allowed on Wikipedia, without saying that it is nonsense as Wikipedia says for all the other (true) conspiracy theories. But, for some reason, the Mandela Effect entry is left alone. More on Dr.Dunegan-Dr.Day here: fsr.boards.net/post/243/threadRegarding Jesse Spots, I don't think he's a "shill" (I can't rule it out). I just think he is not as smart as most people seem to think he is. He manages to make a big deal out of simple concepts and confuse people by explaining these concepts in videos that last 10 minutes, instead of explaining them clearly in 30 seconds. For Mark Sargent, Jonathan, Patricia Steere, too, I can't be sure either way. I would bet you anything however that Orphan Red is not a "shill". Whether they are "shills" or not, they seem to encourage time wasting and superficiality. Maybe because they are "shills" or maybe just because they are superficial.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 14:36:06 GMT 1
That's it, I am fed up, and I am concluding that she is not as stupid as she seems, but an agent, and so must be Mark Sargent.
I have watched this last show, right when everyone was talking about Paris and the probability of another false flag attack, and she asked Stinky Cash about anything except Paris: his dog, his necklace, movies they had watched... she is not that stupid. She is a goddamn agent.
Patricia Steere w/Stinky Cash. #34. Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes Flat Earth and other hot potatoes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 14:49:55 GMT 1
Yet another flat earther who talks about this false flag hoax. Considering that both flat earthers and flat earth debunkers are talking about this, and agree on it, and that the only 3 people of our community not talking about the Paris false flag are Mark Sargent, Jonathan and Patricia Steere... I can only confirm my theory that they are agents. Paris France Bombing "Terrorist Attack" Hoax - Death Metal Concert Alley Way Staged Scene Exposed Russianvids: The Matrix Exposed
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Post by heathen on Nov 15, 2015 18:10:11 GMT 1
Wow, good work. I will try and take a look at some of those links.
I know Mark Sargent is into comic books so I can't help but wonder if his reference to, The Authority, is from this very comic book, The Authority. The manner in how he addressed The Authority was odd to me.
It is also possible the comic book's The Authority, is an anthropomorphic analogy to something similar, but believed to be real in our universe.
If you look at what wikipedia shows for the The Authority's base of operation in the comic book it says-
If Mark's "Authority" behaves in a similar fashion as the quote above, the way he addressed it in his clues videos makes more sense to me. I am not saying for certain that this comic book and Mark Sargent have any connection. But he addressed The Authority as if it/they would be hearing and seeing his public address.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 18:13:45 GMT 1
Oh yeah? Thanks for keeping us updated on this detail. Personally I am fed up with this guy and his buddies. At a time when everyone is worried and spreading the truth about Paris these prominent flat earthers managed to stay as superficial as ever. They feel zero responsibility to inform people. They turned the flat earth community into infotainment, the way Alex Jones and Mark Dice did with the truther community.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 20:13:19 GMT 1
Flat Earth Clues Interview 38 Part 1- Jeff Young's Music without Boundaries via Skype audio markksargent
minute 34 Mark Sargent, after a long 34-minute question/introduction by Jeff Young (who asks questions forever and doesn't let him reply), starts replying on the question about Eric Dubay
Damn, the show lasts 51 minutes, and the introduction lasted longer than 30 minutes. This is almost a grotesque joke.
Mark only talks for about 10 minutes, and the host talks for 40 minutes.
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Oh, OK...! There is a second part! Maybe there is hope that Jeff Young will let Mark Sargent talk in this second part, which only appeared days later on Mark Sargent's channel:
Flat Earth Clues Interview 39 Part 2 - Jeff Young's Music without Boundaries via Skype Audio markksargent
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 6:53:25 GMT 1
More joking and having fun from Steere and Sargent:
Patricia Steere w/Mark Sargent. #35. The Secret Show/Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes Flat Earth and other hot potatoes
After a lot of pressure from her fans in the previous shows, she finally talks about Paris, after the first hour.
On the other hand, they also keep joking and talking bullshit for 75% of the show... which is however an improvement.
We should do a petition to stop Mark Sargent from saying "but...", talking so much, and Steere from smiling, and keeping her mouth open.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 16:00:35 GMT 1
Flat Earth Calls from the Darkness - SW30 markksargent Yeah, yeah... usual bullshit, sweet talking, flirting, inside jokes... everyone is nice to one another, but no real flat earth information is shared. Failed! Classified as "bullshit flat earth infotainment". They almost make you long for the Nazi flat earthers at IFERS, such as "aryan" feminist bitch Firestarter Media: fsr.boards.net/post/3289/thread
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 17:55:23 GMT 1
They are talking about Paris:
Perceptions 10 - Interview with Sean McCrary, US Navy markksargent
minute 5 Bingo! The guy in the Navy, having given month ago his name and last name, even goes as far as calling it a "false flag". Well, what more do I want? I guess I can't ask for much more. Mark Sargent and company screw around 90% of the time, but they are the ones to produce the most facts, both about flat earth and now even about Paris.
I have never heard before anyone in active service in the US armed forces, and not anonymously, say that these attacks are false flags.
The rest of the show is the usual Mark Sargent - Jonathan - Patricia Steere light bullshit superficiality.
For example, at minute 13:10: Jonathan says he's nervous, never been so nervous...
But then, starting at minute 15:30 Jonathan resumes his stupid laughing, as lightly and stupidly as usual.
These 3 people are really unable to stay serious.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 16:59:28 GMT 1
LOL, I can't believe this is really Eric Dubay. It's excellent. These flat earth jokers (Sargent, Steere and Jonathan) have forced Eric Dubay to stop being serious all the time. The funny thing is that most likely Paul... Michael... Bales does not have a sense of humor either. But, in the end, Eric Dubay has a sense of humor. Only he never used it until now: Flat Earth and Other Shill Potatoes Eric Dubay Also, we must appreciate about Eric Dubay the fact that out of all his attacks to others he rarely dealt low blows below the belt -- the one to Matt Boylan was a low blow for example, when he uploaded the video by that girl who recorded him secretly. Whether the video is very funny or somewhat funny, he raises excellent points (which I raised before) about the stupidity and repetitiveness of Mark Sargent's and Patricia Steere's shows.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 18:55:24 GMT 1
Patricia Steere w/Mark Sargent/David Weiss. #37. The Secret Show/ Flat Earth & Other Hot Potatoes Flat Earth and other hot potatoes
Regardless of the mockery by Dubay, they're back, as superficial as ever. Talking about cats, t-shirts, eating, laser surgery... anything but flat earth, as usual.
I am not dedicating my life to flat earth. But these people are. And they should ace it and they should explain every little detail to us, in written and oral form. But what do they do instead? They joke around and talk about each other's personality and personal lives.
What is this? Flat earth infotainment. Of course Eric Dubay is sarcastic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 15:23:49 GMT 1
Flirting With Flat Earther Patricia Steere Critical Unity
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 18:58:51 GMT 1
Time To Drop FLAT EARTH Like A Cult Religion FakeSpaceman InSpace The usual criticism that I always write. Too bad he didn't join this forum, which abounds with criticism, and agrees on everything he is saying in the video. Maybe at the end he should add that he criticizes because he's good at it and he enjoys it. Not just because it is his duty. Some people are good at / enjoy joking, others at singing, others at hosting a radio show... others enjoy being critics. I am like that, too. Only I do it in written form. --- OK, this is very important. Below FakeSpaceman's video, there are important comments, and the most important one is by the renowned Australian false flag researcher Lesta Nediam (who did great work with Paris Charlie Hebdo and Paris Bataclan), whose opinion is that Sargent and Steere are here to keep us asleep, and off the other conspiracy theories, busy listening to their bullshit. As I have always pointed out, I am bothered by the fact that they rarely talk about any other important conspiracy theory. Just bullshit topics, and lots of Mandela Effect (which to me is bullshit). But my conclusion is that they could also just be very superficial people. Anyway, here's the comment:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 17:10:46 GMT 1
LOL, I can't believe this is really Eric Dubay. It's excellent. These flat earth jokers (Sargent, Steere and Jonathan) have forced Eric Dubay to stop being serious all the time. The funny thing is that most likely Paul... Michael... Bales does not have a sense of humor either. But, in the end, Eric Dubay has a sense of humor. Only he never used it until now: Flat Earth and Other Shill Potatoes Eric Dubay Also, we must appreciate about Eric Dubay the fact that out of all his attacks to others he rarely dealt low blows below the belt -- the one to Matt Boylan was a low blow for example, when he uploaded the video by that girl who recorded him secretly. Whether the video is very funny or somewhat funny, he raises excellent points (which I raised before) about the stupidity and repetitiveness of Mark Sargent's and Patricia Steere's shows. At the end of minute 7, they start criticizing Eric's satire video: Flat Earth Mailbag 3 - SW31 markksargent minute 7 on Eric Dubay minute 29 "...there's a lot of Masons in my family..." "...they know of the flat earth / enclosed system at the highest levels..." Usual question: how can they joke around so much when the situation is so tragic? Shouldn't they discuss more truther issues and adopt a more serious tone? This is 100% joking tone, and mostly non flat earth discussion. I find both to be a bad choice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 0:46:43 GMT 1
The long-awaited show on Mark Sargent freemasonic relatives:
Perceptions 11 - A Masonic Flat Earth? markksargent
minute 5 and following Mark Sargent and Jonathan start insulting Eric Dubay for "going drag queen" in his "SNL skit".
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